So you didn’t actually look at what I quoted good to know. I had both the IGN article and Benjis original tweet on the subject. As far as I know Benji is the source. He looked at the concurrent player count.
No I followed the conversation.
We want a source for the console versions flopping, not the Steam version doing well, which we already know.
I appreciate the straight forward clarity. Thank you.
Sales targets are different on each platform. Capcom was likely targeting at least 1 million sold across Playstation + Xbox in the first week.
Are you basing your whole claim on a single region where physical sales have been dropping like a rock or are you're gonna bring a good argument for such a claim?
right, that's why I said "likely".
To be clear, this wouldn’t have cleared anything up for me. However, When Jaded Alyx step in; it made more sense. I wasn’t arguing the argument, I thought you missed previous post since it was so close to your source post.
SFV, which released on two platforms, with a myriad of problems and terrible word of mouth, ended up at 7 million. SF6 launched on 4 platforms, one of which has seen significant growth in fighting game players, and has incredible buzz, genuine casual/mainstream appeal, and a 92 meta/open critic rating. Is 10 million really that unachievable 5-6 years down the line?
He was pretty clearly making an educated guess from the two datapoints we have. You should make an appeal to reason rather than making the assumption that he was making a definitive claim. Like tons of posts on this forum make claims like this. Based on the Steam CCU and that it started out strong, we can reasonable guess a higher multiplier than usual. I'd guess at least a 4x multiplier for Steam sales. He probably assumed something higher, maybe based off Guilty Gear performance. The flop part likely comes from seeing how it flopped at retail in the UK. Based on the standard portion of the UK market, it would be 100k retail. This is failing to recognize that the UK favors blockbusters over standard games so the UK tends to a smaller portion of midsized games like Street Fighter and it's ignoring likely digital sales would be 50+%.
I really don't think this happens at all. As far as I can tell, player count always exceeds unit sales for mainstream games, especially multiplayer-focused titles.
Dunno about other games but Smash Ultimate sold 5 million at launch weekend and 12 million in its first month, so I am not sure that comparison makes a lot of sense. SF is gonna have to rely on strong legs going forward.
It is probably a mix of people hoping for SF6 to beat the SF launch record and also people seeing the franchise bigger than it is.
Fighting games are overall much bigger now than they were in 2008. SF6 is a step in the right direction for the franchise to get back to it's previous heights.
I am not knowledgeable enough on that scene, but Max Dood mentioned in his SF4 video that it was the most hyped fighting game he remembers.
Digital sales allowed for longer tails than before, but I would say that the disemphazing of couch multiplayer on PS/Xbox since the start of the HD era, really cut fighting games to a part of their audience.
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Yes but Capcom had targeted 2.5m in that timeframe. SFV significantly underperformed upfront.
The hype for SF4 was unmatched. Looking back the jump from SF3 being a Dreamcast game of the late 90s to SF4 in HD with 3D animation running on Capcom's MT Framework engine was incredible. Especially for the west were Guilty Gear X2 and King of Fighters were never really that big compared to the Asian scene and some parts of Europe. People really only had MvC2 and SF3 3rd Strike to go with for almost a decade.
