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Xbox + Microsoft FY24 Q1 Results: Total Gaming +9%, Content and Services +13% (1st Party and Game Pass growth) Hardware -7% | Next Q guidance +45-50%

The Hunter said:
It's a new IP. It's not Fallout or Tes that sells also because of the name
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Starfield is a new IP as much as Elden Ring is a new IP. It's literally Fallout in space; same way Elden Ring is Dark Souls 4.

Whether a game is technically a new IP or not is not that relevant when the developer is well-known. All Fallout and TES fans knew about Starfield.
 
2024 PS exclusive lineup easily beat XB.

FF7 rebirt and DS2 are bigger then anything XB have. And if Sony can sneak in Wolverine then there will be no comparison at all.
 
The Hunter said:
Even Halo infinite was the biggest debut ever under these metrics
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Starfield topped the September NPD meaning it beat NBA 2K, EA FC, Mortal Kombat and month 2 of Madden. Traditionally, these are all very big.
Halo Infinite was also big, as being number 2 in December is typically, especially considering it was mostly a F2P game though the lack additional details suggest Infinite was behind the best Halo debut.
Stop being so contrarian to assume these metrics don't mean anything.
 
Remember_spinal said:
I wouldn’t really count 2k as it didn’t have digital sales tracked and EA FC was only two days of tracking.
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It's more general comparators. These don't prove Starfield is the biggest game but, these prove that Starfield is on the tier of major hit, above the tier of Death Stranding 2, a God of War spinoff (if Miles Morales is enough to go by) and FF7R2.
 
Astrogamer said:
It's more general comparators. These don't prove Starfield is the biggest game but, these prove that Starfield is on the tier of major hit, above the tier of Death Stranding 2, a God of War spinoff (if Miles Morales is enough to go by) and FF7R2.
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Eh, im not saying starfield wasn’t successful but I expect most of those games mentioned to also be number 1 on the NPD. Miles Morales has sold around 10m copies so far, a god of war game in the same style would also probably do really well.

Nothing will outsell Rebirth in February. The rest, who knows i guess we’ll see when they come out.
 
Remember_spinal said:
Eh, im not saying starfield wasn’t successful but I expect most of those games mentioned to also be number 1 on the NPD. Miles Morales has sold around 10m copies so far, a god of war game in the same style would also probably do really well.

Nothing will outsell Rebirth in February. The rest, who knows i guess we’ll see when they come out.
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Game is out on the 29th, the last day of the month, could get a little weird depending on where the cut off for Circana's data.

But don't you believe in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, ye of little faith.
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No but really, first two days of February are interesting.
You've got Persona 3 Reloaded, Suicide Squad and Granblue Fantasy: Relink. Which one is going to come out on top?
Suicide Squad first gameplay impression was very poorly received, Granblue Fantasy is coming years later than what was planned and then you've got a remaster of Persona.

Which one is going to sell more?
 
Remember_spinal said:
Eh, im not saying starfield wasn’t successful but I expect most of those games mentioned to also be number 1 on the NPD. Miles Morales has sold around 10m copies so far, a god of war game in the same style would also probably do really well.

Nothing will outsell Rebirth in February. The rest, who knows i guess we’ll see when they come out.
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No.1 in September is typically several times bigger than no. 1 in February. Like in 2018, had Monster Hunter World as No. 1 in January and February. By the end of the year, Spider-Man (which topped September) reached No. 6 while Monster Hunter was No. 9. In 2019, No. 1 in February was Anthem. It ended the year at 15. No. 2 in September was Borderlands 3, it ended the year at 4. In 2020, the top newish game in early 2020 was DBZ Kakarot. It ended the year at 17 while Marvel's Avengers and Super Mario 3D All-Stars got 11 and 9 respectively.
 
Evilnemesis8 said:
Game is out on the 29th, the last day of the month, could get a little weird depending on where the cut off for Circana's data.

But don't you believe in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, ye of little faith.
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No but really, first two days of February are interesting.
You've got Persona 3 Reloaded, Suicide Squad and Granblue Fantasy: Relink. Which one is going to come out on top?
Suicide Squad first gameplay impression was very poorly received, Granblue Fantasy is coming years later than what was planned and then you've got a remaster of Persona.

Which one is going to sell more?
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Suicide Squad will bomb. The only chance it has at success is making a deal with Microsoft and/or Sony to be included in a sub service.

Persona 3 Reload is basically relying on PS4/PS5 & PC sales, I don’t see it selling like 5 either. Granblue isn’t even really in the sales discussion. Rebirth is guaranteed like 2 mil with preorders alone.
 
Remember_spinal said:
Suicide Squad will bomb. The only chance it has at success is making a deal with Microsoft and/or Sony to be included in a sub service.

Persona 3 Reload is basically relying on PS4/PS5 & PC sales, I don’t see it selling like 5 either. Granblue isn’t even really in the sales discussion. Rebirth is guaranteed like 2 mil with preorders alone.
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The second part of my post was not comparing FF7R2 with the other games, but those 3 games versus one another and who's going to come out on top(US and/or Worldwide).
 
Remember_spinal said:
Eh, im not saying starfield wasn’t successful but I expect most of those games mentioned to also be number 1 on the NPD. Miles Morales has sold around 10m copies so far, a god of war game in the same style would also probably do really well.

Nothing will outsell Rebirth in February. The rest, who knows i guess we’ll see when they come out.
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In the US at least, Starfield's first month was higher than the lifetime sales of FF16. So I'd definitely put Starfield a step above VIIR2.
 
Why do we still have people downplaying Starfield number again? The number we get atm is guarantee still big success. Sure we don't know how the legs will go in the future but the launch is certainly big both in sales number and player number. Hell even gamepass got big boost when Starfield drop.
 
Yeah, Starfield not only launched big in player count, it made back its development budget at launch, it delivered the single biggest day in Game Pass history, it also launched at #1 in a revenue only chart in the US despite both Game Pass and early access sales being $35 for the vast majority of players, and it has held on fantastic two months after launch. #8 in the US Most Played chart and has seen a gradual decline on Steam. Nothing drastic, no steep drop, just a gradual decline week after week as more people finish their playthrough.
 
Starfield is also the 7th best selling game of 2023 in the U.S. ahead of games like Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy XVI and others which im sure no one was expecting. Top 10 most played in the U.S. and other regions with pretty much every game ahead of it being all the online co-op/multi-player live service games so for a single player RPG to be that high two months later is very impressive.
 
While Starfield performed okay in US, it certianly did much worse than previous Bethesda games. By the end of the year Starfield will be out of the yearly top 10 ranking by Circana, first time for a Bethesda SP RPG in 15 years? The sales have plummeted after launch significantly. In UK and Europe it was extremly dissapointing. Not only it didn’t move consoles in a meanigfull way but it actually performed worse saleswise than Forza Horizon 5, which didn’t make it into top 25 selling games of 2021 in UK and top 20 selling games in Europe. For a Bethesda title those are horrendous numbers, their games used to sell 30-60 million of copies, Starfield will be lucky if it will reach 15 million. The new IP narrative also doesn’t sit with me, a perfect comparssion mentioned before was Elden Ring, which also was a new IP but because of the developer household name and nature of their products it doesn’t have a huge impact IMO. Of course there is GamePass that negatively impact the sales, so we will probably never know how well or bad the game actually did. Lets just stop painting a picture were Starfield sold like crazy and had remotly the impact most of people thought it will have.
 
reksveks said:
What 5 games is going to beat it?

It was fifth, right?

SM2? Mario maybe?
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Yeah. I am not sure if there is much title to push Starfield out of top 10 there. And it is not like Starfield is not going to keep selling going into holiday i suppose?

Only 2 big title left for the year there unless nintendo evergreen goes crazy and past through many of newer titles.
 
StrazakGoz said:
It was 7th. SM2, Mario Wonder and CoD MWIII are a given, I think Avatar will also sell better. Something behind Starfield might also outsell it by the end of the year, since the legs for it are bad.
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Avatar i am quite pessimistic toward that game lol. So if it can suddenly surprise us to take that top 10 slot. i will be very surprised.
 
AruanaRiva said:
Avatar i am quite pessimistic toward that game lol. So if it can suddenly surprise us to take that top 10 slot. i will be very surprised.
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I’m not big on it, but we already had a huge hit based on other medium this year that blew everyones exepectations.
 
StrazakGoz said:
It was 7th. SM2, Mario Wonder and CoD MWIII are a given, I think Avatar will also sell better. Something behind Starfield might also outsell it by the end of the year, since the legs for it are bad.
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Forgot COD, doh, I would then probably say 9/10th by the end of the year.

Not sure about Avatar personally but it probably will do between most people expect.
 
Welfare said:
Yeah, Starfield not only launched big in player count, it made back its development budget at launch, it delivered the single biggest day in Game Pass history, it also launched at #1 in a revenue only chart in the US despite both Game Pass and early access sales being $35 for the vast majority of players, and it has held on fantastic two months after launch.
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And how we know that?

Welfare said:
US Most Played chart and has seen a gradual decline on Steam. Nothing drastic, no steep drop, just a gradual decline week after week as more people finish their playthrough.
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Gradual decline on Steam? If it is in terms of players, then yes. If terms of sales, then no

peter42O said:
Starfield is also the 7th best selling game of 2023 in the U.S. ahead of games like Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy XVI and others which im sure no one was expecting. Top 10 most played in the U.S. and other regions with pretty much every game ahead of it being all the online co-op/multi-player live service games so for a single player RPG to be that high two months later is very impressive.
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That was last month. Just 2 weeks after launch, sales of Starfield fell of a cliff everywhere. And since vast majority of sales are on Steam, that sharp fall on Steam chart will affect chart for October NPD


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The PC Game Pass subscription has rocketed by an inconceivable 433%, and the Game Pass Ultimate subscription has ascended by 366% within a year.
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A 2nd increase this year
 
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