Will Soul Hackers 2 sell more than Shin Megami Tensei V?
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I mean I did say so, lol
Sucks it bombed that badly, it’s a good game that deserved better
Sucks it bombed that badly, it’s a good game that deserved better
Is this case of super lowered expectations that any showing= not bad lol.
Yeah pretty much. The bar got dropped into the ocean in terms of expectations.
Two days.
even with a similar number of tracking days, Digimon and Xenoblade looks to have done much better in July than SH2 did in August. a number of games that were below those two are above Soul Hackers.
SH2 probably did enough to make its money back, but it's probably done as a series. the book is closed on this
SH2 probably did enough to make its money back, but it's probably done as a series. the book is closed on this
Yeah. Agreed here. I dont see that as good August which is slow months as good performance. If this is all US can muster, i cant see it doing better anywhere else there ww.
At first i thought with hard price cut it may reach 1m all in all. I guess at this point, it will need heavy price cut to reach Nocturne remastered number.
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I guess dont release a Jrpg in the current Jrpg machine wasn't the Smart move.
Like seriously all this argument of releasing the game only the consoles of worldwide appeal is offensive as hell.
One more time Atlus treating Nintendo users like second class.
Thank God Persona 5 is gonna be released soon.
Having that platform exclusive marketing seems to work a lot more for Atlus. Its clear, they don’t know how to market their games on their own
So I had this in my backlog of things to finish but I'm struggling a bit to complete it properly, sharing what's already been done is a good form of external motivation and giving myself a good kick in the butt, sorry if this post layout is a bit all over the place
Basically I wanted to take a look at Soul Hackers 2 credits to have a better idea on who worked on it and what was the scale of the project.
The tldr; isn't very complicated, it's mostly the TMS #FE team with some changes here and there and Artdink who supposedly took care of Steam and Xbox SKU, the hardest part is comparing the scales of the project eg. was SH2 comparable to TMS #FE in term of development, was it smaller or bigger ?
The only thing we can go by is the lead and number counts, which is what I tried to do
Primary source
Credits source : Manual check of every name on mobygames
So the keypoints from Atlus internal studio
Lead credits
So the next thing I then began to do was try to compare it to TMS #FE
TMS #FE / SH2 rough lead comparison
TLDR;
The big leads Ishida, Hirata Takamori are the same, a few went to work on SMTV, the Nintendo staff obviously changed, a couple people were promoted, a couple are MIA, TMS #FE used a lot of outsourcing compared to SH2
Conclusion
Acronym list
Full credits list for those interested
EDIT : Somehow came back to mind that mobygames provides a "Collaboration" function that tells you on the credits page which game credit overlap with the one you're currently looking.
While it looks useful on paper I quickly dismissed it for obvious reasons you can see for yourself in the screenshot below
It basically accounts for every single name in the credits, the problem is that what I'm mainly interested was core development staff.
It's not that localizing/marketing/guest artist/voice actors/special thanks/overall production staff aren't important nor interesting to look at, it's just they're not at the core of the creative process nor fully invested throughout the whole development of the game, thus you will find the name of Atlus USA/Sega USA staff on every single Atlus game localized and that's... not very relevant to the thing I was trying to look at.
The end result is that games at the top of this list ends up being "most recent game from the same publisher" and... that's not very relevant, all it tells you is that "in a short span of time it's the same people who are working in the same company" which is not exactly a breaking news.
An that's why if you check SMTV credits you will find that 13 Sentinels is the one at the top of the list despite probably not having a single developer in common with SMTV
Now if that function at mobygames allowed for some kind of "filter" that would be incredible though.
Basically I wanted to take a look at Soul Hackers 2 credits to have a better idea on who worked on it and what was the scale of the project.
The tldr; isn't very complicated, it's mostly the TMS #FE team with some changes here and there and Artdink who supposedly took care of Steam and Xbox SKU, the hardest part is comparing the scales of the project eg. was SH2 comparable to TMS #FE in term of development, was it smaller or bigger ?
The only thing we can go by is the lead and number counts, which is what I tried to do
Primary source
Credits source : Manual check of every name on mobygames
So the keypoints from Atlus internal studio
- 19 different leads*
- 101 names in the credits
- 83 different people
Lead credits
So the next thing I then began to do was try to compare it to TMS #FE
TMS #FE / SH2 rough lead comparison
TLDR;
The big leads Ishida, Hirata Takamori are the same, a few went to work on SMTV, the Nintendo staff obviously changed, a couple people were promoted, a couple are MIA, TMS #FE used a lot of outsourcing compared to SH2
Conclusion
Acronym list
Full credits list for those interested
EDIT : Somehow came back to mind that mobygames provides a "Collaboration" function that tells you on the credits page which game credit overlap with the one you're currently looking.
While it looks useful on paper I quickly dismissed it for obvious reasons you can see for yourself in the screenshot below
It basically accounts for every single name in the credits, the problem is that what I'm mainly interested was core development staff.
It's not that localizing/marketing/guest artist/voice actors/special thanks/overall production staff aren't important nor interesting to look at, it's just they're not at the core of the creative process nor fully invested throughout the whole development of the game, thus you will find the name of Atlus USA/Sega USA staff on every single Atlus game localized and that's... not very relevant to the thing I was trying to look at.
The end result is that games at the top of this list ends up being "most recent game from the same publisher" and... that's not very relevant, all it tells you is that "in a short span of time it's the same people who are working in the same company" which is not exactly a breaking news.
An that's why if you check SMTV credits you will find that 13 Sentinels is the one at the top of the list despite probably not having a single developer in common with SMTV
Now if that function at mobygames allowed for some kind of "filter" that would be incredible though.
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Thank you for all that hard work! It's always interesting to see a clear comparison of where the team came from, how 1st department juggles its staff, and who has moved up and landed a lead role. It's kinda crazy how Atlus used the DS/3DS eras to build up on internal staff so that this department could exist today.
