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Social media doesn't forget.

It's a much more cutthroat place than real life. I personally don't engage in it due to the fear of leaving a lasting impression that doesn't match my intents. A mistake comes way too soon.
 
Social media doesn't forget.

It's a much more cutthroat place than real life. I personally don't engage in it due to the fear of leaving a lasting impression that doesn't match my intents. A mistake comes way too soon.
And people just purposely misinterpreting what you mean and spreading it
 
personally i really couldn’t care less if someone’s a console warrior, or if they attach their unwarranted opinion to their posts, if they are one of the last remaining sources of actual sales numbers. very sad news whenever the pool of data shrinks further
 
I don't think it's the people who brought up Wonder's fault, if you search for his tag you'll see xbox fanboys (mostly paid blue checkmarks) who mocked, harassed and attacked him
Yeah these xbox fans despise Chris so much
They're still mad at him when he talked about some developers are not interesting to make games for Xbox
I mean these dumb fanboys should aim there frustration and anger at Microsoft not chris
 
Yeah these xbox fans despise Chris so much
They're still mad at him when he talked about some developers are not interesting to make games for Xbox
I mean these dumb fanboys should aim there frustration and anger at Microsoft not chris

This is entirely unhelpful. Don't sling blame on a singular group. Especially not when we've been actively telling people in these threads to stop throwing shit at Dring for months because this was the inevitable end-result and yet it kept happening because a lot of people whether they are here, on social media, or fanboys of X game console have no self-restraint or self-reflection until the clown makeup is smeared all across their face such as now.

Stop throwing stones in glass houses and stop fanboy warring over who's more to blame.
 
It sure is something to blame Xbox fans on Chris Dring being harassed for reporting FF7R2 sales.
On my previous post on this thread I commented on who Dring was replying to, let me tell you, not a big Xbox fan.
 
UK is a pretty console friendly market, but it's also quite a small market for JRPGs too... i don't expect big numbers for any of those games, one could say subpar actually
Dogma is probably more popular in UK due to being more western in style, its not a Tales of style JRPG at all for instance.
 
It sure is something to blame Xbox fans on Chris Dring being harassed for reporting FF7R2 sales.
On my previous post on this thread I commented on who Dring was replying to, let me tell you, not a big Xbox fan.
He got his share of (often nasty) criticism back when Microsoft was buying ABK and he was very clearly and openly against it. But that was quite a while ago and singling out Xbox fans, especially now, doesn't make any sense anyway since all the fanbases are doing it.
 
I don't think it's the people who brought up Wonder's fault, if you search for his tag you'll see xbox fanboys (mostly paid blue checkmarks) who mocked, harassed and attacked him

It can be both (or even more things at play). Or he could just need a mental health break from being a public facing figure all together. No one would know except Chris.

But people here (on Install Base) have been insuferable about how they talk about this dude. Seeing people here now collectively hiding their hands now is hilarious.

Losing data sucks but it is much less important than having good rules of engagement and they tend to be shitty here at tines when figures say something people don't like.
 
It can be both (or even more things at play). Or he could just need a mental health break from being a public facing figure all together. No one would know except Chris.

But people here (on Install Base) have been insuferable about how they talk about this dude. Seeing people here now collectively hiding their hands now is hilarious.

Losing data sucks but it is much less important than having good rules of engagement and they tend to be shitty here at tines when figures say something people don't like.
I wholeheartedly agree with you
 
I think that if you're openly going to go out on a limb with particular biases, then you obviously need to have thick skin because you know there's going to be pushback. Otherwise, don't go down that route AND double-down when it looks like you're slightly off-base.

(Of course, that's if we're rolling with the assumption he's deleted the account because of criticism, rather than just a general break).
 
I don't think the user is wrong the second you start providing your own opinion and engaging in discussion it can get exhausting really fast.

Can't blame him for exiting, at the same time my issue with some of his comments was always how he the mob was going to react long-term and they they dont usually forget about stuff like this.
To the kind of people who cause problems any unfavorable sales comparison, no matter how valid is considered "providing your own opinion". Even if you're just pointing out it's down vs the previous game in the series!
 
He got his share of (often nasty) criticism back when Microsoft was buying ABK and he was very clearly and openly against it. But that was quite a while ago and singling out Xbox fans, especially now, doesn't make any sense anyway since all the fanbases are doing it.
It can be both (or even more things at play). Or he could just need a mental health break from being a public facing figure all together. No one would know except Chris.

But people here (on Install Base) have been insuferable about how they talk about this dude. Seeing people here now collectively hiding their hands now is hilarious.

Losing data sucks but it is much less important than having good rules of engagement and they tend to be shitty here at tines when figures say something people don't like.
Feels like every corner of video-game industry internet discourse had its turn of hating on Dring, don't think any single one of those is specifically to blame, and as far as I can remember Chris never said anything out of line. It just points to a much larger issue of just how touchy people seem to be regarding negative news of their brand of choice, or of criticism in general, some weirdo new form of console wars.
To the kind of people who cause problems any unfavorable sales comparison, no matter how valid is considered "providing your own opinion". Even if you're just pointing out it's down vs the previous game in the series!
Pretty much, feels like Dring's mistake is implying anything negative at all.
 
If someone deleted his Twitter account go find the reasons to those arguing with him at Twitter, there is nothing to search in here.
 
To the kind of people who cause problems any unfavorable sales comparison, no matter how valid is considered "providing your own opinion". Even if you're just pointing out it's down vs the previous game in the series!
Of course there are people on social media that does this but you are kidding yourself if you think his other comments aren't also criticized. Thats all I was saying in my first post, nothing foolish about it at all. It's impossible for us to know what pushed him to do this or what people mostly criticize him for, however I would imagine it's a combination of his data and his personal comments.
 
To the kind of people who cause problems any unfavorable sales comparison, no matter how valid is considered "providing your own opinion". Even if you're just pointing out it's down vs the previous game in the series!
I disagree but I can understand why you would feel that way. Otherwise I think @Chris1964 is right, trying to blame ourselves for something that happened on a different platform isn't really helpful. Especially when the reasoning for his absence isn't clear yet.

Probably best to just get back to data/numbers, blaming each other isn't getting us anywhere.
 
Come on, let's not.

Let's move on from re-litigating this and avoid it in the future.
I do agree the joke has gotten old, but he did set it up himself when he refused to listen to what people told him about Mario sales and also doubling down on it later.

Obviously that doesn't excuse harassment.
 
It is hilarious that for some reason some people started to blame Xbox fanboys for harassing the guy. Especially on the topic regarding about Final Fantasy.

Chris' biases have been quite visible for a long time (Xbox aside, even his comments on Nintendo had very peculiar "flavor"). I do find it ironic that FF became discussion the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
I always found it childish when people like Dring and Piscatella respond to trolls, it's bizarre seeing grown men being this upset over stuff like this.
 
if you search for his tag you'll see xbox fanboys (mostly paid blue checkmarks) who mocked, harassed and attacked him

Yeah, saw that too. But that's lasting for quite some time because Xbox console hardware really is on life support in PAL territory and its community is very bitter on social media.

Well, at least we will have GIbiz articles
 
Stop the derail
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As already stated earlier in the thread, let's not go the console war-route on who to blame for Chris Dring requesting his Twitter account to be closed.

If you have a more genuine interest in discussing the situation, you can head over to the Community Discussion and Moderation Feedback thread .

In any case, let's go back to the actual topic of this thread.

 
I always found it childish when people like Dring and Piscatella respond to trolls, it's bizarre seeing grown men being this upset over stuff like this.
What ?
Have you read what some manbabies say to them on twitter x
And if you look at these trolls profiles you will discover they're actually adults in there late 40s and also married and have children's
They're the bizarre grown men not chris or mat
 
What ?
Have you read what some manbabies say to them on twitter x
And if you look at these trolls profiles you will discover they're actually adults in there late 40s and also married and have children's
They're the bizarre grown men not chris or mat
Social media 1 on 1, it's people without filters, mean people, and all sorts of opinions you won't like. So it's normal that public people will ignore PMs and interactions and treat it like a broadcasting platform. Or only respond to positive people or fans. Most don't read or engage with comments, especially when it's cruel stuff. I think it's a sign of maturity to block that out and move on.

I don't blame Pat or Chris, nor find that they are replying or commenting on the hate in some big way, but I always find it odd when public people start to have an issue with the obvious troll factor, especially something as dumb as console warring, which frankly, any adult should be able to block out.

There are limits of course, and we don't know the full story or how bad it was.
 
What ?
Have you read what some manbabies say to them on twitter x
And if you look at these trolls profiles you will discover they're actually adults in there late 40s and also married and have children's
They're the bizarre grown men not chris or mat
Social media 1 on 1, it's people without filters, mean people, and all sorts of opinions you won't like. So it's normal that public people will ignore PMs and interactions and treat it like a broadcasting platform. Or only respond to positive people or fans. Most don't read or engage with comments, especially when it's cruel stuff. I think it's a sign of maturity to block that out and move on.

I don't blame Pat or Chris, nor find that they are replying or commenting on the hate in some big way, but I always find it odd when public people start to have an issue with the obvious troll factor, especially something as dumb as console warring, which frankly, any adult should be able to block out.

There are limits of course, and we don't know the full story or how bad it was.
You two get one reprieve because the mod post wasn’t completely marked. But the conversation is over now.
 
Welp, he's back 😁


...and it was nothing to do with all the above discussion (clearly some guilty consciences around!). He does what I decided to do many years ago, and just ignore whatever's levelled at you across social channels or on certain forums. Fair play to him - you need thick skin in any industry where you share things publicly online.

Anyway, good to see, and here's to us all continuing the sales discussion once more (which is why we all come here for, right??).
 
I don't think the user is wrong the second you start providing your own opinion and engaging in discussion it can get exhausting really fast.

Can't blame him for exiting, at the same time my issue with some of his comments was always how he the mob was going to react long-term and they they dont usually forget about stuff like this.
they are still human, you want them to be robots. there's already robots but they don't share things
 
Welp, he's back 😁



That profile pic goes well with his post lol

Looks like harrasment isn't the real reason why he had closed the account for a short time

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Mod post | Final call to end the derail
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Especially in light of Chris Dring reopening of his Twitter account, it's really time to go back to the main topic of the thread.

And even if harassment wasn't the cause for the account closure this time, if you want to continue the more general discussion that spawned by the last few days events, head over to the Community Discussion and Moderation Feedback thread.

Be aware that starting from this post there will be zero tolerance for continuing the derail in this thread, so much that the moderation team will intervene by issuing sanctions towards the involved user(s).

 
On PS5 comps YOY, I know they were doing pretty material price cuts in the US. Is anyone aware if they were doing similar in Europe as this is only units vs. Units and Dollars?
 
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