The Game Freak Thread: Pokémon, New IP Etc. [Update: Nintendo Survey]

Given what we heard today and how they handled Arceus, I think that there are good odds for Gen X to be cross-gen.

Exclusive ^^^ I think all the more with ZA being cross.

We shall see. Having cross gen could potentially have huge launch and ,more sales overall but I'm sure pokemon 2026 be the game they want everyone wanting to buy a nsw2 for
 
Exclusive ^^^ I think all the more with ZA being cross.

We shall see. Having cross gen could potentially have huge launch and ,more sales overall but I'm sure pokemon 2026 be the game they want everyone wanting to buy a nsw2 for
Prices of Switch 2 consoles and games are what makes me lean toward a crossgen release.

It will be the big 30th anniversary game, better to not outprice part of the audience.
 
Prices of Switch 2 consoles and games are what makes me lean toward a crossgen release.

It will be the big 30th anniversary game, better to not outprice part of the audience.

One way of looking at it, another way is Pokemon and Mario Kart, this gen MK costs $80, and obviously exclusive at launch. By the time Gen X releases we will have (estimated) 20mil+ with 25mil-30mil for that quarter
 
wonder what the free update will even do for SV. I don't expect many gamechat features. and improved frame rate and resolution would have put it in the same category as LZA
 
wonder what the free update will even do for SV. I don't expect many gamechat features. and improved frame rate and resolution would have put it in the same category as LZA
I’m guessing a more basic upgrade to fixed 1080p and locked 30fps
 
I’m guessing a more basic upgrade to fixed 1080p and locked 30fps
I'm not one to expect there to be patches to make games run as expect of a switch game (maxing out frame rate and resolution). I'm guessing there's some deeper changes. we'll see
 
I'm not one to expect there to be patches to make games run as expect of a switch game (maxing out frame rate and resolution). I'm guessing there's some deeper changes. we'll see
Since it's going to be a free upgrade and no Switch 2 Edition either the changes are not going to be substantial or at least there's not going to be notable additional content.
 
wonder what the free update will even do for SV. I don't expect many gamechat features. and improved frame rate and resolution would have put it in the same category as LZA
Dynamic resolution will always hit 1080p and better stable 30fps, stable framerate should also help deal with all the lag of the game. Basically what it seems most Switch 1 games are getting just by being played in Switch 2
 
Dynamic resolution will always hit 1080p and better stable 30fps, stable framerate should also help deal with all the lag of the game. Basically what it seems most Switch 1 games are getting just by being played in Switch 2
that wouldn't need a patch. voice chat is really the most I expect out of this
 
I want to ask a question.

Why do you guys think Pokemon's managed to stay so relevant for almost 30 years, arguably in the best shape it's ever been as a franchise (financially speaking, of course) and despite, well, everything? Especially when other franchises have risen and fell in it's wake.

I personally think it's because The Pokemon Company and the companies that own it have managed to maintain Pokemon's core appeal across various mediums - that being the actual Pokemon and the bonds they share with you, the trainer. And the characters, to a lesser extent. I guess it sounds vague, but I can't quite put it into words yet. ^^'
 
I want to ask a question.

Why do you guys think Pokemon's managed to stay so relevant for almost 30 years, arguably in the best shape it's ever been as a franchise (financially speaking, of course) and despite, well, everything? Especially when other franchises have risen and fell in it's wake.

I personally think it's because The Pokemon Company and the companies that own it have managed to maintain Pokemon's core appeal across various mediums - that being the actual Pokemon and the bonds they share with you, the trainer. And the characters, to a lesser extent. I guess it sounds vague, but I can't quite put it into words yet. ^^'

TPC understood almost immediately that they aren't and hardcore IP nor a child IP. They are all-age, all-demographics.
I think it all starts from here.

I also think the key for the longevity was Gen 3 on GBA. That's when the series stabilized to its baseline level of popularity.
I remember a Masuda interview about how before Ruby/Sapphire's launch he had nightmares about no one showing up for launch.
 
I want to ask a question.

Why do you guys think Pokemon's managed to stay so relevant for almost 30 years, arguably in the best shape it's ever been as a franchise (financially speaking, of course) and despite, well, everything? Especially when other franchises have risen and fell in it's wake.

I personally think it's because The Pokemon Company and the companies that own it have managed to maintain Pokemon's core appeal across various mediums - that being the actual Pokemon and the bonds they share with you, the trainer. And the characters, to a lesser extent. I guess it sounds vague, but I can't quite put it into words yet. ^^'
I think its both the realisation of large scale appeal, and its application on basically all mediums they could find, be it anime, games, cardgames, movies, or truly ungodly amounts of merch.

But also consistency.
For the good and bad it did to the games quality wise, for a 30 year run they have released a mainline game every other year from 1996 to 2022, with 2022-2025 being the first time they skipped more than a year, and even there they released dlc in 2023 which would have been a third version in years before.
Same with the anime running consistently forever, and the movies having yearly releases from 1998 to 2020.

Consistently pushing any single IP for such a long time that kids grew up on it, then have kids who do the same is a feat thats usualy reserved for the likes of disney.
 
There is a rumor swirling around social media that Pokemon Gen 10 will be exclusive to Switch 2 in 2026 and will be inspired by Cyclades island groups in Greece.

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Centro Leaks simply repackages leaks from other sources and farm engagement by making definitive statements.

We shouldn't discuss it too much.
 
that wouldn't need a patch. voice chat is really the most I expect out of this
Isn't Game Chat a system level feature that just sets up voice chat (and the picture-in-picture camera feed if enabled) regardless of the software being played? Why would games need a specific patch for that?
 
Assassin's Creed Odyssey was a dream setting for me, if we get half of the beauty of that game I'd be happy. Hope we get plenty of Greek mythology inspiration.
 
It would be pretty impressive if Game Freak already moves over fully to Switch 2 in 2026, a late 2026 release could put Switch 2 at 35-40 million units sold at most? But maybe they are betting on gen 10 having great legs not to mention motivating people to get a Switch 2.

And i would think Nintendo is pushing for gen 10 to be exclusive to Switch 2 to act as a big factor to get more people especially in Japan to move over to Switch 2.
 
After “GF will never do cross gen games” the next stupid narrative to fall is gonna be “GF never moves to a new platform early”. It will join the cemetery currently housing “GF doesn’t do DLC” and “GF doesn’t take years off”
 
After “GF will never do cross gen games” the next stupid narrative to fall is gonna be “GF never moves to a new platform early”. It will join the cemetery currently housing “GF doesn’t do DLC” and “GF doesn’t take years off”
My thinking is more if GameFreak is already able to make gen 10 a generational leap? It would be interesting to see how a GameFreak game made from the ground up for Switch 2 would look compared to the crossgen made for Switch 1 Legends Z-A.
 
Isn't Game Chat a system level feature that just sets up voice chat (and the picture-in-picture camera feed if enabled) regardless of the software being played? Why would games need a specific patch for that?
Went back to look on the page and it said game share, not system chat. My bad

My thinking is more if GameFreak is already able to make gen 10 a generational leap? It would be interesting to see how a GameFreak game made from the ground up for Switch 2 would look compared to the crossgen made for Switch 1 Legends Z-A.
Honestly not hard. They just need to fix up the performance issues. Trinity Engine already supports some modern functions; those can be extended by rt libraries if they wanted to
 
After “GF will never do cross gen games” the next stupid narrative to fall is gonna be “GF never moves to a new platform early”. It will join the cemetery currently housing “GF doesn’t do DLC” and “GF doesn’t take years off”

yeah i dont get why people think this way (as in 100% or impossible), its not guarateed but thinkin about what happned with previous launches/trends isnt the way to go anymore. Hell they broke that with the legends games afterall

Nintendo is gonna want the big 2026 game to be nsw2 exclusive and everone knows nsw2 gona sell alot more than any other nintendo platfom by that time. thats a year and a half after launch.

people thinkin gen 10 wont be exclusive is in for some tasty crows, PLZA being cross gen makes that wayyy more likely since PLZA looked to be exclusive this whole time to the nsw
 
Gen 10 as an exclusive makes more sense considering how many Pokémon the Switch 1 has already gotten. 2 new generations with 2 waves of DLC each, 2 remakes, and 2 Legends games. The system already has more Pokémon than any other before it, so I don't see much value in releasing Gen 10 on it. And if that happens, Nintendo would have to wait until 2029 or 2030 for the Switch 2 to get a new generation, which would be by far the longest any system has had to wait for a new Pokémon generation, something Nintendo would want to avoid. And looking at how the Switch 2 launch is shaping up, I have no doubts there will be enough of an install base for the game to succeed.
 
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Pokemon XY also came out 1,5 years after 3DS release so they done in the past too. Now someone probably gonna say that information is incorrect because the 3ds released in march not june
 
I really think past precedent doesn't matter here.
It really doesn't, for several reasons (many of which have been noted above). Not least among them is the very high chance that Switch 2 sells in 1.5 years more than 3DS did in 2.5 years.
 
I'm really itching to know when we'll see Legends ZA again. I expect all the footage from now on to be on the Switch 2
 
I think it would make sense to move from a land open world to a more sea based one but i feel there is a issue of empty space between islands and a issue of overabundance of water and flying type Pokemon being everywhere. I can see some work around but doubt they had time to do it.

Like a Island Pokemon that moves that is not capturable till late game or a legandary pokemon that is an island.
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Expanding on this if you can change your sailing Pokemon to one of these could allow some interesting mechanics like base building and habitats for your pokemon between sailling to islands and even places to add neat playgrounds to do with your pokemon akin to camps.

Other option is a underwater segments in more shallow areas with caves. S/V only had 1 cave system from my poor memory of it.

Hydreigon and falinks are most likely gonna be as mains and since Falinks is confirmed for Z-A it makes sense to have it be in gen 10 as well.
 
It is a matter of getting the game to its audience hands.

Switch 2 price remains very high for the kids market and getting a Lite 2 out for Fall 2026 will be a big challenge.

Why can’t Gen X be like MKW? Where it’ll sell for years and so hypothetically Lite in 2027 could help its legs?

Pokemon ZA is this year and GenX is next year and with the longer and bigger release cycles I believe with DLC in 2027 (GenX game) and no new mainline games intill 2028 or possibly 2029 (Remakes or next Legends) I can see why they would push this as exclusive cuz if not that would mean NO new mainline games for the nsw2 intill the mid life of the console (2028/2029) which would be 3.5 or 4.5 years after the launch of nsw2
 
I really think past precedent doesn't matter here.

I shout this from the rooftops re: Nintendo every year, but some folks just have to reference “patterns” with Nintendo. lol

After “GF will never do cross gen games” the next stupid narrative to fall is gonna be “GF never moves to a new platform early”. It will join the cemetery currently housing “GF doesn’t do DLC” and “GF doesn’t take years off”

Yeah, Game Freak is going to do what works best at any given time, not what works best at points from the past. Anything can shift.
 
It is a matter of getting the game to its audience hands.

Switch 2 price remains very high for the kids market and getting a Lite 2 out for Fall 2026 will be a big challenge.
They can just get the game the following year as it will still be supported especially in 2027 when it will likely get its own DLC expansion, both SWSH and SV have shown that legs are stronger than ever and people don’t necessarily have to get it strictly at launch
 
People here love to latch on to this bizarre idea that Pokemon games are primarily bought for kids but other Nintendo games like Mario and Zelda which are known for their highly complex, uninviting gameplay and gritty aesthetics are exempt from this for whatever reason.
 
People here love to latch on to this bizarre idea that Pokemon games are primarily bought for kids but other Nintendo games like Mario and Zelda which are known for their highly complex, uninviting gameplay and gritty aesthetics are exempt from this for whatever reason.
I didn't say primarly but it is a sizable part of the audience yeah.

More importantly it is an important audience for the franchise as getting them into the games when they are young increases the odds that they'll be longtime fans.
 
I really think past precedent doesn't matter here.

The only "precedent" I expect will be a Pokémon-themed Switch 2 that get gets wiped from every retailer instantly.

Oh boy, the 30th anniversary next year is a terrifying thought. It will make the 2025 Canadian Costco card fights look like child's play.
 
I didn't say primarly but it is a sizable part of the audience yeah.

More importantly it is an important audience for the franchise as getting them into the games when they are young increases the odds that they'll be longtime fans.
I do think this resolves itself - they're going to have both Z-A and Champions in 2026 on Switch 1, that's more than enough to cover the part of the audience that doesn't buy into Switch 2 in its first 18 months. At which point the 30th anniversary stuff will be in full swing and I'd expect Gen10 to be another evergreen title from that point on. I also think whatever revenues are potentially "lost" from releasing Gen10 relatively early will be more than made up for by Champions - both through whatever revenue it generates and the Home integration giving additional incentive for players to buy Gen10 for access to new Pokemon.
 
I'm fairly sure we'll see the original games re-released next year as part of the 30th anniversary too.
The inability for most customers to feasibly access the prior generations (without resorting to either the used market or emulation) is an issue TPC needs to resolve in general - you can see they were setting up for this with Bank and the 3DS rereleases, but obviously 3DS evaporated overnight in the transition to Switch. They would make an absolute fortune drip-feeding rereleases with Home integration on Switch 2 over time - especially if rereleases become the most optimal way to source competitive Pokemon for Champions (or the optimal way to bring some Pokemon into Gen10 onwards).
 
You expect them on Nintendo Switch online? or like the 3DS buying them on the eshop.

Game Freak is really particular about not having any kind of rewind feature and Bank/HOME integration, so I'm more inclined to believe they will not be part of NSO.
 
Any chance that they release them on mobile as well as consoles? Given that the Pokemon Company has done mobile plus Switch releases quite reguarly in recent years.
 
Any chance that they release them on mobile as well as consoles? Given that the Pokemon Company has done mobile plus Switch releases quite reguarly in recent years.
Very slim I'd say, Nintendo hasn't really dabbled into bringing their retro catalogue to mobile.
 
Any chance that they release them on mobile as well as consoles? Given that the Pokemon Company has done mobile plus Switch releases quite reguarly in recent years.
No chance if you ask me
 
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