The Game Awards 2023 | December 7th @ 4:30PM PT | A Catch-All Discussion Thread [The Results Are Here!]

Which of the following nominees wins Game of The Year at The Game Awards?

  • Alan Wake 2

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Baldur's Gate 3

    Votes: 36 46.2%
  • Marvel's Spider-Man 2

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Resident Evil 4

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Super Mario Bros. Wonder

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

    Votes: 35 44.9%

  • Total voters
    78
  • Poll closed .

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We're a little under 2 months out from what I like to call The Keighleys, which has quickly become one of the most prominent events in the gaming industry... mostly because it's essentially become E3 during the winter as we get big new game reveals, but I can't deny that said strategy has been working (103 million livestreams for the previous year's awards show, continuing it's frankly absurd rise in viewership). There will be a lot to talk about over the coming weeks:

- speculation over the categories and nominations
- potential leaks about potential new game reveals
- discussion about who'll win the awards including the much coveted Game Of The Year
- predictions about the nominations, winners, and WORLD PREMIERES

I realize that it might be early for me to open this thread now, but I mainly did this to move the extensive conversation about this to a place more appropriate for it instead of the Pre-Launch Watch for Spider-Man 2. (Fun fact, this is actually the very first thread I've made on Install Base!)

So, while we wait for the categories and nominees to be revealed sometime in the middle of November, I'd like to ask: In a year that has proven to be pretty stacked for gaming, what do you guys think will be the six nominations for Game of The Year? If you so choose, you can also explain your reasoning, though a few entries are definitely more obvious. There's frankly a ton of options!

EDIT (11/13): The nominations for Game of the Year have been revealed! They are:
- Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment, Epic Games)
- Baldur's Gate III (Larian Studios)
- Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (Insomniac Games, Sony Interactive Entertainment)
- Resident Evil 4 (Capcom)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Nintendo EPD, Nintendo)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Nintendo EPD, Nintendo)

So now that the nominees have been revealed, what do you think'll win Game of The Year? Vote in the poll above!

You can also vote for Game of The Year and various other categories here on their official site! Bear in mind that public voting only contributes 10% to the final decisions. Unless it's Player's Choice. Hopefully we don't run into a Genshin v Sonic fiasco this time.
 
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Zelda wins, Baldur's Gate is too long and a lot of people have jumped off it.

Predicted nominations:
Zelda: TOTK
Baldur's Gate III
Street Fighter VI
Spider-Man 2
Alan Wake 2
Resident Evil 4 Remake

Metroid Prime 4 gets a new trailer. Hellblade will be there, and Xbox announces they are gonna drop like 15 Call of Duty games on Game Pass or something after the event is done.
 
I think BG3 is the games media darling this year. I think it has it in the bag

I’ll wait until the end of the month to update my list
 
It is going to be BG3 vs Zelda big time. New games that are revolutionary tend to do well, so I would put my money on BG3 winning the big prize at the moment.

As of now I would bet nominees are:

Zelda TOTK
BG3
Spidey 2
RE4 Remake
SF6
Super Mario Wonder (replace with Alan Wake 2 if SMW scores less than 90 average)
 
BG3
TotK
Spidey 2

Are locked in, as for the other three games, it all depends.

I can see a world in which the panel nominates RE4R and relegates SF6 to winning the Fighting Game award, especially in such stacked year. Nominating two games from the same third party publisher might be something they wish to avoid. I can also see a world in which SF6 gets nominated over a Remake.

As for Alan Wake 2, we can look at another remedy game to get a feel.
Control was nominated in 2019 as well with a 83 MC. It was a weaker year, but if Alan Wake 2 does something interesting with its narrative structure and/or hits something like 86-88, it might be sort of equivalent in terms of power levels.


As to will win? Let's go with CHAOS, TotK wins GotY but BG3 wins INDIE of the year.
It won't happen, because there's no way it's considering "indie" but that would be "fun" discourse!

/s
 
Not mine, but lemme predict what the GOTY would say

1. BG3
2. Totk
3. Spidey
4. Starfield
5. FF16
6. Alan Wake 2

Fighting games won't be nominated cuz they're biased against it
Same with Mario, they would put Nintendo games as "family friendly party games" as always
Starfield shouldn't be listed realistically, but they will want to even out the first parties and it was a big game
Would usually put an indie in there, again for the variety sake but too many big titles this year. If chosen, should be either Sea of Star or Dave the Diver
Diablo 4 has a high rating, but fell off which left a bad impression
Could include remakes, tho I doubt it. If so, RE4 would be there
 
Not mine, but lemme predict what the GOTY would say

1. BG3
2. Totk
3. Spidey
4. Starfield
5. FF16
6. Alan Wake 2

Fighting games won't be nominated cuz they're biased against it
Same with Mario, they would put Nintendo games as "family friendly party games" as always
Starfield shouldn't be listed realistically, but they will want to even out the first parties and it was a big game
Would usually put an indie in there, again for the variety sake but too many big titles this year. If chosen, should be either Sea of Star or Dave the Diver
Diablo 4 has a high rating, but fell off which left a bad impression
Could include remakes, tho I doubt it. If so, RE4 would be there

Only reason I could see Mario not being included is because it would split the vote with Zelda.
 
Maybe it is me, but when it comes to The Game Awards... is there really any importance to it all?
Outside of the trailer showcase, whoms impact seems relatively muted.
 
Maybe it is me, but when it comes to The Game Awards... is there really any importance to it all?
Outside of the trailer showcase, whoms impact seems relatively muted.
yea it doesn't matter, just like metascores. but i do think it creates discussion and hype around the gaming industry whether we like it or not. There definitely is impact to devs and sales
 
  • BG3
  • TOTK
  • Spiderman 2
  • RE4R
  • AW2
  • Wonder
BG3 wins GOTY and most awards.
Maybe it is me, but when it comes to The Game Awards... is there really any importance to it all?
Outside of the trailer showcase, whoms impact seems relatively muted.

Its one of the highest viewed gaming shows in the world if not number 1. Also pretty much the entire PC/console gaming industry participate and endorse it.
 
I definitely think it has an impact on gaming sales and notoriety for studios and publishers. Its a positive all around as much as people like to moan about the commercialization (lol) of it all

I also think it’s done a good job highlighting smaller publishers and accessibility.
 
Also pretty much the entire PC/console gaming industry participate and endorse it.
So was E3... and that seems to have come to the end of it's road. The industry has effectively given up on it, for now.
There definitely is impact to devs and sales
I wonder about that. The recognition is a good thing but it does seem a little empty when it comes to things. I don't know, more of a reward than the Oscars seems prudent for corners like indie scene.
I have seen very little to suggest that sales are effect positively or negatively by TGA.
 
So was E3... and that seems to have come to the end of it's road. The industry has effectively given up on it, for now.

I wonder about that. The recognition is a good thing but it does seem a little empty when it comes to things. I don't know, more of a reward than the Oscars seems prudent for corners like indie scene.
I have seen very little to suggest that sales are effect positively or negatively by TGA.

Fromsoft themselves said in their earning report their game awards presence boosted sales

 
Here would be my two-month-out picks for the Game of the Year nominees so far:

- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
- Baldur's Gate III
I don't think I need to explain these. These are the two games most likely to actually win the whole damn thing by far.

- Marvel's Spider-Man 2
Now that the reviews are in, I can pretty much call this one a lock. This is Sony's big AAA offering for the year and it's managed to rise above the sea of games high 80s and stand out.

- Resident Evil 4 Remake
Even though The Game Awards has nominated remakes before and this is critically-speaking one of the best games of the year, I'm not gonna 100% call this a lock, mainly cause there's a lot of great games that aren't remakes and The Game Awards might want to focus on that... yeah, probably not. As such, it's a near-lock for me.

Now this is where things get interesting, mainly because I honestly have no idea what the final two entries will be. Having looked at everything, I think I can narrow it down to about 9 games so far:

- Starfield, Hi-Fi Rush
I think The Game Awards would like a game to represent Microsoft to go along with the one that represents Nintendo, the one that represents Sony, and the one that more or less represents PC. Starfield is a controversial pick because it's aggregated score is the lowest out of the ones we know from these seven and weeks after it's launch it's reception has more or less taken a turn for the worse...but it is the big new AAA Bethesda game for this generation, and it's score is good enough for the Game Awards to prioritize it. Hi-Fi Rush has a higher aggregate score and was pretty popular when it released, but it's definitely smaller-scale and the fact that it's sub-90 on MC and OC makes it much easier for it to get lost in the sea of high-80s games.

- Dead Space, Street Fighter 6, Final Fantasy XVI, Alan Wake 2, Super Mario Bros Wonder(?)
This is what I like to call the "complete wildcard". It's likely one of these is going to make the cut, but something completely different can also make it. I don't know. Dead Space is highly regarded but is another remake in a year where there are better original games. Street Fighter 6 has a pretty damn high aggregate score but probably wouldn't get prioritized over something like Final Fantasy XVI IMO. Alan Wake 2 and even Mario Wonder has yet to release and may shake things up (wouldn't count on the latter though). If I had to pick one, I'd say Street Fighter 6, but I won't be 100% sure until Alan Wake 2 releases.

- Sea of Stars, Dave the Diver
Last but not least (though I'd cynically say least in terms of TGA nominations) we have the indie games. The Game Awards usually likes to have one indie rep here, and these two games would be the best bets if there is one. Sea of Stars is definitely the more popular game of the two, but Dave the Diver has the higher aggregate score - hell, it even sits at a 90. (Alternatively they could also just nominate Hi-Fi Rush with this reasoning even if that's not an indie game...or just not nominate an indie at all this year because there's enough AAA games to fill the list.)

That's my list so far! I'll revisit this in early November as we'll have a much clearer picture of what our nominees'll be.
 
My six game prediction -

1. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
2. Baldur's Gate III
3. Street Fighter VI
4. Marvel's Spider Man 2
5. Hi Fi Rush
6. Starfield

Winner: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
 
Zelda Tears of the Kingdom I hope as a big fan of the zelda series. But wouldn’t be surprised if it’s gonna be BG3.
 
95% sure BG3 will win. You can tell in various discussions inside gaming outlets and podcasts (those who vote) that it's the game that has captured the zeitgeist the most this year and its longevity speaks for itself. Zelda will be a very strong second and the rest is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to wins.
 
I will wait until AW 2 launches before a prediction on the nominees.

But the winner probably will be Baldur's Gate III. Zelda TotK is marvelous but it's a sequel, I believe voters will go for the novelty.
 
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1-Spider-Man 2
2-Baldur's Gate 3
3-Zelda TOTK
4-Resident Evil 4
5-Street Fighter 6
6-Starfield

Zelda wins.

But in a world where It takes two has won (wtf), I have (very little) hope that Chants of Sennaar may be nominated. Especially after the declaration of love from Jason Schrier that may have extend the popularity of the game.
 
95% sure BG3 will win. You can tell in various discussions inside gaming outlets and podcasts (those who vote) that it's the game that has captured the zeitgeist the most this year and its longevity speaks for itself. Zelda will be a very strong second and the rest is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to wins.
It has captured the zeitgeist, and Zelda does have an issue with being similar to BOTW and that that game already won.

What makes it hard to judge Baldur's Gate is that a lot of people fell off the game after a few months, and the later parts of that game are not as good as the early parts.

I also wonder how many journalists played games like this before, as Baldur's Gate has a lot more traditional aspects to it than many seem to think. It reminds me of Persona 5, where new players were blown away by it, but if you played 3 and 4 you already know half the game.
 
It has captured the zeitgeist, and Zelda does have an issue with being similar to BOTW and that that game already won.

What makes it hard to judge Baldur's Gate is that a lot of people fell off the game after a few months, and the later parts of that game are not as good as the early parts.

I also wonder how many journalists played games like this before, as Baldur's Gate has a lot more traditional aspects to it than many seem to think. It reminds me of Persona 5, where new players were blown away by it, but if you played 3 and 4 you already know half the game.

No metrics tell us this, in fact, it's the opposite.

The CCUs on Steam is still incredibly high for a game that released August 3rd. It is still a Steam Top 5 weekly best selling game months after its release. The Steam positive % has been constantly been going up instead of down over the months, probably due to bug fixes/QoL features via patches post launch.

As for Journalists, being wowed by a game they haven't played before, this is also not true. It is not a "Persona moment".

If you look at Larian Studios' previous game, it's not like their last game has no reviews. Divinity Original Sin 2+Definitive Edition(console release) have a combined review number of over 150+ which is still higher than how many reviews are out for BG3 currently. Obviously BG3 will end up higher, due to the upcoming Xbox/Switch2(?) versions coming down the line.
D:OS2 is also still at a respectable 92-93~ MC/OC between the platforms. They just believe BG3 is a better overall package than their previous game(s) which is evident by its 96 score.
 
No metrics tell us this, in fact, it's the opposite.

The CCUs on Steam is still incredibly high for a game that released August 3rd. It is still a Steam Top 5 weekly best selling game months after its release. The Steam positive % has been constantly been going up instead of down over the months, probably due to bug fixes/QoL features via patches post launch.

As for Journalists, being wowed by a game they haven't played before, this is also not true. It is not a "Persona moment".

If you look at Larian Studios' previous game, it's not like their last game has no reviews. Divinity Original Sin 2+Definitive Edition(console release) have a combined review number of over 150+ which is still higher than how many reviews are out for BG3 currently. Obviously BG3 will end up higher, due to the upcoming Xbox/Switch2(?) versions coming down the line.
D:OS2 is also still at a respectable 92-93~ MC/OC between the platforms. They just believe BG3 is a better overall package than their previous game(s) which is evident by its 96 score.
The metrics are telling us a lot of people are still playing it, it doesn't tell us who fell off or why.

Why are you adding reviews from 2 versions of Original Sin 2?

I am just talking about what I am hearing from journalists on podcasts, there is a large section of people who never played Original Sin 1 or 2. This is absolutely a Persona/Elden Ring sort of thing, where a lot of people are experiencing this sort of game for the first time.
 
The metrics are telling us a lot of people are still playing it, it doesn't tell us who fell off or why.

I think it's just the words "fell of" that trips me, especially in the context of a single player game.

Maybe it's just my playing habits talking here, but if I've completed the game, I'm done with the game unless there's an expansion. I haven't fell off with the game.


Why are you adding reviews from 2 versions of Original Sin 2?

Because Original Sin 1-2 non-definitive editions were the PC only version/early access version of the game? If you just compare Original Sin 2 non-definitive edition, that's PC only. But it would be a lie to say that no console reviewer played D:OS2.
I admit it's not a 1 to 1 comparison, but that's because the release strategy between D:OS1+2 and BG3 is different.

That being said.... v
I am just talking about what I am hearing from journalists on podcasts, there is a large section of people who never played Original Sin 1 or 2. This is absolutely a Persona/Elden Ring sort of thing, where a lot of people are experiencing this sort of game for the first time.


I understand more of what you meant now.
It's true, journalists who did not review the game were probably moved towards playing the game to be able to discuss the game and/or because of the WoM from their peers. Elden Ring only has 30-40~ more reviews than Sekiro/Dark Souls 3 but it's quite obvious many more of the gaming media landscape than that played ER compared to previous FromSoft games.
 
  1. BG3 (likely to be the winner)
  2. TOTK (only other real contender for GOTY alongside BG3, but I don't think it will win)
  3. Spiderman 2 (a lock for goty nominee, but I don't think it's winning anything other than performance)
  4. Starfield (no chance Xbox biggest game this year and one of the most hyped won't be nominated)
  5. RE4R (one of the best reviewed games this year, but could not get the nominee due to How many great games came out)
  6. Mario Wonder (Absolutely glowing reviews)
 
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I'll be very surprised if BG3 doesn't win. Three more nominations are a lock for obvious reasons (TOTK, Spidey, Starfield). The other two nominations are a bit up in the air. I think SF6 should definitely be one of them. And then maybe Sea of Stars to represent the "smol indie game" niche.
 
1-Spider-Man 2
2-Baldur's Gate 3
3-Zelda TOTK
4-Resident Evil 4
5-Street Fighter 6
6-Starfield

Zelda wins.

But in a world where It takes two has won (wtf), I have (very little) hope that Chants of Sennaar may be nominated. Especially after the declaration of love from Jason Schrier that may have extend the popularity of the game.
2021 was just a really weak year. There were a lot of great games but very few exceptional ones. We probably have a case where every single one of the 6 nominees this year would have won overall GOTY in 2021.
 
Maybe AW2 can still pull off a last minute photo finish. If so i expect one of the capcom games to get knocked down

I still may even substitute SFVI or RE4R for FFXVI or Starfield
 
I don't think Mario is missing a GOTY nomination with that kind of reviews 🥵

Related to this thread, pretty sure Nintendo has also secured Publisher of the Year.

Yeah the 6 nominations are going to be:

- TotK
- BG3
- RE4R
- SFVI
- SM2
- SMW

Sorry Starfield/Bethesda/Microsoft, wrong year.

I really hope SF6 doesn't get the Fighting game snub, but this year is SO competitive it might just be a victim of such a banger year.
 
Related to this thread, pretty sure Nintendo has also secured Publisher of the Year.



I really hope SF6 doesn't get the Fighting game snub, but this year is SO competitive it might just be a victim of such a banger year.

They have several 90+ games with Future Redeemed, Prime, Zelda, and now Mario. You also have Pikmon with a respectable 87-88. I also expect Mario RPG to score well. I can't think of a publisher this year with such a strong record.
 
They have several 90+ games with Future Redeemed, Prime, Zelda, and now Mario. You also have Pikmon with a respectable 87-88. I also expect Mario RPG to score well. I can't think of a publisher this year with such a strong record.
Yep, just insane an insane year in terms of quality AND quantity.

Lets just collectively forget about the 1-2 Switch though :ROFLMAO:
 
I will wait until AW 2 launches before a prediction on the nominees.

But the winner probably will be Baldur's Gate III. Zelda TotK is marvelous but it's a sequel, I believe voters will go for the novelty.
Voters will vote for the game with a 3 in the title instead of the other one because the other one is a sequel. Sounds about right. XD

I kid, I kid - BG3 definitely feels more novel than TOTK and has garnered a lot of new fans of both the game, genre, and studio. I do agree BG3 will probably win for a multitude of reasons (Larian’s a relatively small studio who’s quietly made an extremely well received game, BG3 itself being in the cultural zeitgeist more recently and for longer, Zelda is a sequel to a game that already won GOTY).
 
I didn't. It wasn't even a game game, it was just mid. The reports made it seemed much worst.

I mean, it's sitting at 56 on MC. In the end nobody cares about the game which is why it was sent out to die in the first place.

Voters will vote for the game with a 3 in the title instead of the other one because the other one is a sequel. Sounds about right. XD

Gaben and Valve is going to see a game with a 3 in its name win GotYs and say : maybe we should do that with a little franchise called Half-Life.

Don't bully me, It's okay to have dreams 😭

Edit: Wrong 1-2 game, it's 56.
 
I mean, it's sitting at 58 on MC. In the end nobody cares about the game which is why it was sent out to die in the first place.



Gaben and Valve is going to see a game with a 3 in its name win GotYs and say : maybe we should do that with a little franchise called Half-Life.

Don't bully me, It's okay to have dreams 😭

People cared since people memed about it and said Nintendo should give it away from free. And those who played basically said, 'it's okay'. It honestly says more about the review system that Redfall somehow scored higher since that game is actually broken.
 
I hope SF6 makes it honestly, it's more deserving than RE4 or some other "big" games that might (Hogwarts, Starfield, FFXVI, etc).
 
I'm still thinking:

TOTK
BG3
RE4
SM2
FF6

And then the last one is kind of a wild card. SF6 maybe but there is still a bias against fighting games. I'd say the same thing about 2D platformers but with Mario Wonder getting such great reviews maybe I'll be wrong there too.
 
BG3 isn't considered an indie game. So one is missing

Zelda
Spider-Man
Mario
Baldurs Gate
Indie / Small Game
Either Starfield, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Alan Wake or Resident Evil
 
This is such a strong year that it's difficult to be 100% confident about the nominations. At the moment, I believe the six nominations will be:

1. Tears of the Kingdom
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Spider-Man 2
4. Super Mario Wonder
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Street Fighter 6

I'm not confident in the last two spots. I could see Starfield or FF16 getting in ahead of either of those two, despite the fact that I believe RE4 and SFVI to be more deserving.
 
For Nomination I think

Zelda
Mario Wonder
Baldur Gate 3
Spidey
Hi-Fi Rush
Final Fantasy 16

Wild Card is Alan Wake 2 , waiting for its release

Resident Evil 4 is a remake released in a stacked new releases year , Priority I think would be for new games

Starfield could had been nominated if it wasn't in a stacked year
 
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