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Super Mario Bros. Wonder sold 4.3 million copies in its first 2 weeks

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https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2023/231108e.pdf

From the press release:

  • Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which was released worldwide on October 20, achieved global cumulative sales of 4.3 million units within the first two weeks. This makes it the fastest-selling* Super Mario related title.
  • Super Mario related titles also tend to sell consistently over a long period of time. We anticipate this title will be an appealing choice for consumers during the upcoming holiday season and will continue to sell next year onwards as well.
  • Super Mario Bros. Wonder is the first entirely new entry in the side- scrolling Super Mario series in about 11 years.
  • This title provides surprising new 2D Mario experiences, and we believe that this, in conjunction with global excitement from The Super Mario Bros. Movie, resulted in the large sales volume.
 
There it is. So funny that all the post talk in forums and we actually got numbers

Edit: 2 weeks I'm guessing first 10 days as it be by end of Oct 30th?

Double edit: 4.3mil sell thru and Japan 800k retail and assuming 30% digital would mean sell thru outside of Japan should be around 3.1-3.2mil
 
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If these numbers tell us anything it's to keep an eye out for when the Zelda movie drops, that's when we will have our rough proximity for the next Zelda game that can reap the benefits Mario did.
 
Tbone5189 said:
There it is. So funny that all the post talk in forums and we actually got numbers

Edit: 2 weeks I'm guessing first 10 days as it be by end of Oct 30th?
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It doesn't clarify, just says 2 weeks.
 
Honestly not that impressive to me, even knowing 2D Mario is a legs oriented affair. Not to say I'm disappointed, I didn't have any expectations, just 4.3 million in 10-14 days isn't amazing at all even for the biggest Mario launch ever, this will be a much bigger juggernaught later on. It is a good number of upfront volume for how much legs will keep it selling for months to come.

Also means it's pretty unlikely it outpaced Spider-Man 2 at launch, but that was expected at this point.
 
AngryAlchemist said:
Honestly not that impressive to me, even knowing 2D Mario is a legs oriented affair. Not to say I'm disappointed, I didn't have any expectations, just 4.3 million in 10-14 days isn't amazing at all even for the biggest Mario launch ever, this will be a much bigger juggernaught later on. It is a good number of upfront volume for how much legs will keep it selling for months to come.

Also means it's pretty unlikely it outpaced Spider-Man 2 at launch, but that was expected at this point.
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You don't think it outpaced Spider-Man 2?
 
Ruddlerstein said:
You don't think it outpaced Spider-Man 2?
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I think they'd be almost exactly the same at 10 days or even a slight lead for Spider-Man 2 (4.5 mil - 5 mil).

Spider-Man 2 is definitely getting outpaced though by about week 3, maybe the end of it if it's the higher estimate. If you were to graph them right now, you'd probably see something like a crossing beam where Spider-Man's small lead gets smaller and smaller until Wonder over takes it in week 3. I mostly say this because it's almost impossible for Spider-Man 2 to not have sold 4.3 million by week 2, probably even sold a bit more than that given it's 2.5 mil day one PR is apparently sold-through.
 
If Spider-Man eked out Mario by the end of its second week I can't imagine it'll have been by much considering Mario already held better in Europe by the end of its second week. Circana won't give us that much better of an idea either since they won't report on Wonder's digital split. I don't think it ever mattered though, it was safe to assume Spider-Man would be the more relatively frontloaded title in the near term and this is still a big win for Mario.
 
on the one hand, this is semi-underwhelming

on the other, it puts it back into perspective that this is likely only just trailing spider man 2, and is pretty much guaranteed to overtake it these holidays. switch era has really given me a warped perception of what to expect from a games launch
 
Nintendo seems happy with its sales so far. Biggest Super Mario launch at 4.3m, and they anticipate the holidays and the Mario movie factor to give the game legs.

It is surprising that for as popular of a franchise as Mario is, that it doesn't experience the huge launches that come with some other Nintendo IP. Ultimately though the series being an evergreen sets it up well.
 
If Spider Man has outpaced Mario to this point that likely won't last through the end of the holiday season. Mario is like the absolute perfect Christmas gift kind of game.
 
That 4.3 million is a record shows how much weaker the franchise is in general when it comes to launch. Definitely thought one of the Wii era games would have done more than that.

Then again, only 1 Mario game has had a >6M quarter (Odyssey) on Switch so I guess consumers haven't really changed their buying habits that much.
 
Well, there we have it. Mario games are slow launchers so with the install base of the Switch this is somewhat expected (just felt weird when they didn't say anything at first). This coming holiday is when sales will really blow up.
 
IronTed said:
That 4.3 million is a record shows how much weaker the franchise is in general when it comes to launch. Definitely thought one of the Wii era games would have done more than that.

Then again, only 1 Mario game has had a >6M quarter (Odyssey) on Switch so I guess consumers haven't really changed their buying habits that much.
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Not sure if your comparison for SMO is making you think that way. 3D Mario I expect would have more record breaking launches and also SMBW is at 4.3mil sell thru where is I think SMO did 9mil shipped Q1 and sell thru was 7.2mil-7.5mil?

I’m sure SMBW gonna blow right past 10min Q1 with ease. Hell 15mil might happen for this year alone
 
People calling this performance being weak.... when it literally is fastest selling Mario game is baffling to me.

This happen to Metroid Dread and Pikmin 4 as well. All is franchise breaking record sales. And suddenly. Well sales is disappointing.

That does not even make sense to me.
 
Tbone5189 said:
Not sure if your comparison for SMO is making you think that way. 3D Mario I expect would have more record breaking launches and also SMBW is at 4.3mil sell thru where is I think SMO did 9mil shipped Q1 and sell thru was 7.2mil-7.5mil?

I’m sure SMBW gonna blow right past 10min Q1 with ease. Hell 15mil might happen for this year alone
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I honestly didn't recall what SMO's sell through was, though my point wasn't "SMO did more". Just using previous quarterly shipments (which mostly were much more than 2 weeks in terms of tracking period). I'd guess the 2 week shipment for SMBW is somewhere around 5M which is pretty strong compared to basically everything else (especially NSMBUDX which was an early quarter release).

I now realize my second paragraph was poorly worded on my part though lol. I absolutely don't mean to imply SMBW < 10M for the quarter. I actually think it'll be closer to 20M than 15M. I just meant to say that even in the Switch era Mario games aren't posting massive first weeks and are still exceptionally leggy compared to your TOTK/Pokemon/etc franchises.
 
Limabean01 said:
on the one hand, this is semi-underwhelming

on the other, it puts it back into perspective that this is likely only just trailing spider man 2, and is pretty much guaranteed to overtake it these holidays. switch era has really given me a warped perception of what to expect from a games launch
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Right there with you. A 2D platformer in 2023 just pacing the big AAA Sony holiday game... Bonkers.
 
The actual fastest selling Nintendo games is Tears of the Kingdom and Pokémon SV with a draw of 10 millions in 03 days, right?
Zelda wins in Europe and the USA, and the Pokémon game in Japan.
 
SergioPL said:
The actual fastest selling Nintendo games is Tears of the Kingdom and Pokémon SV with a draw of 10 millions in 03 days, right?
Zelda wins in Europe and the USA, and the Pokémon game in Japan.
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Yes, I don’t believe it was clarified if one sold more than the other in the 3 day launch.
 
Mekanos said:
Yes, I don’t believe it was clarified if one sold more than the other in the 3 day launch.
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Both perform on par. The difference is Pokemon has stronger legs vs ToTK atm i think.
 
AruanaRiva said:
People calling this performance being weak.... when it literally is fastest selling Mario game is baffling to me.

This happen to Metroid Dread and Pikmin 4 as well. All is franchise breaking record sales. And suddenly. Well sales is disappointing.

That does not even make sense to me.
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Folks are accustomed to massively front-loaded sales, I think, so it doesn't really "click" for them that these record-breaking numbers are just the opening salvo.
 
Congrats and well deserved. This will be a big evergreen title for many years.
 
Biggest launch sales for Mario, which isn't a surprise. Ppl saying this is weak numbers, will only be surprised how well Mario game sells in the long run. However, it probably won't do record breaking sales for the 2D series which is unfortunate but some of us did predict this.
 
Koti said:
Biggest launch sales for Mario, which isn't a surprise. Ppl saying this is weak numbers, will only be surprised how well Mario game sells in the long run. However, it probably won't do record breaking sales for the 2D series which is unfortunate but some of us did predict this.
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That's going to depend largely on how well Nintendo can convince a consumer into buying Switch games to play on new hardware and keep it a relevant evergreen. And that isn't knowable yet, so plenty of people consider its evergreen sales potential as sunsetting with the release of new hardware, perhaps erroneously.
 
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Koti said:
Biggest launch sales for Mario, which isn't a surprise. Ppl saying this is weak numbers, will only be surprised how well Mario game sells in the long run. However, it probably won't do record breaking sales for the 2D series which is unfortunate but some of us did predict this.
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Ehh. Let see on upcoming holiday first before saying it wont be record breaking there. Mario is holiday monster since the earliest release. This may be the same story after all.
 
Astral_lion02 said:
How ?

It's highly unlikely game that oppened at 2,5M first day end selling less than 4,3M in 2 weeks.
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it is possible when games are front-loaded

either way we can already see wonder is out-legging it in many sales charts, it seems mario is doing really well in europa
 
~3M launch week + ~1.3M second week if I had to totally guess. Big launch for a Mario game, but like with all Mario platformers, it will be all about the legs.
 
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eternalsenia said:
it is possible when games are front-loaded

either way we can already see wonder is out-legging it in many sales charts, it seems mario is doing really well in europa
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Spider-Man doesn't have medicore legs unless I missed something.

Mario has a better 2nd week but bigger first week and good 2nd week drop for Spider-Man should be enough to stay above for cumulative sales.
 
Imagine thinking biggest Super Mario launch of all time is "weak". in the next two months its sales will grow significantly.
 
Astral_lion02 said:
Spider-Man doesn't have medicore legs unless I missed something.

Mario has a better 2nd week but bigger first week and good 2nd week drop for Spider-Man should be enough to stay above for cumulative sales.
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I didnt say it has mediocre legs, Mario just has better legs

mario performs very well during holiday periods, thats where nintendo shines
 
IronTed said:
That 4.3 million is a record shows how much weaker the franchise is in general when it comes to launch. Definitely thought one of the Wii era games would have done more than that.
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The two big Wii Mario launches had staggered releases, NSMB Wii didnt release in Japan during the first 14 days of it’s launch and Mario Kart Wii it happened the same but with North America
 
eternalsenia said:
I didnt say it has mediocre legs, Mario just has better legs

mario performs very well during holiday periods, thats where nintendo shines
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The only way Mario is ahead of Spider-Man after only 2 weeks is with Spiderman having a huge drop or with Spider-Man first week ending barrely higher than first day. (Like 3,0M first week).

If Spider-man sold 4,0M first week (1,0M bellow GOW), the game need only >300k in 2nd week to beat Mario.
 
Charamiwa said:
John Harker said on resetera regarding this news that Wonder outsold SM2 (by a little bit), whatever that means.
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Does John have info that we don't know there?
 
AruanaRiva said:
Ehh. Let see on upcoming holiday first before saying it wont be record breaking there. Mario is holiday monster since the earliest release. This may be the same story after all.
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No, let’s judge everything based on our first impressions fo the first numbers take. Out of context. /j

Has sales talk been getting more popular on the internet or smth causes there’s a lot of people who well it seems like it’s their first rodeo.

Wait am I getting old.
 
record-braking launch for one of the most historical, strong and successfull franchise (meaning that it is 100% proved that it HAS legs, so the power to stay relevant for a long period of time) and still people claim it as disappointing?

IB, please: we can do better, I think.

This game still has to see its first HOLIDAY boost, c'mon.
 
Lelouch0612 said:
cessary to bring up uninitiated Twitter/Internet discourse. That's basically why we are here discussing, among people that made the effort to learn about how sales work. Of course you will read weird takes elsewhere.
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Exactly
and this is the reason why this post is pretty telling:

Lelouch0612 said:
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After 2 weeks, New Super Mario Bros Wii was at ~3.5M. After 7 weeks, it was at 9.5M.
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not a bad pace, there!
and Mario Wonder hasn't been released during Holidays
 
Very good result.

Opening numbers might pale compare to huge launches of other Switch games such as Pokémon and Zelda but we know Mario performs best on longer time horizons. Plus, October is traditionally a slow period.
 
Djehuty said:
No, let’s judge everything based on our first impressions fo the first numbers take. Out of context. /j

Has sales talk been getting more popular on the internet or smth causes there’s a lot of people who well it seems like it’s their first rodeo.

Wait am I getting old.
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Well, the more people learn about sales. The more traffic we will get on IB baby.^_^ Who knows one day we are biggu enough so we can get exclusive sales data from publisher haha.
 
Tbone5189 said:
There it is. So funny that all the post talk in forums and we actually got numbers

Edit: 2 weeks I'm guessing first 10 days as it be by end of Oct 30th?

Double edit: 4.3mil sell thru and Japan 800k retail and assuming 30% digital would mean sell thru outside of Japan should be around 3.1-3.2mil
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This should be until 28th or 29th October.
If corporations now change the general counting of "first 2 weeks", we're fuck
We just don't know what standard they use of starting weeks on a Sunday or Monday

Who did this PR?
Nintendo JP or Nintendo America?
 
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