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Tri-Ace Parent company tweeted Star Ocean 6 is doing good profit wise. I hope Square Enix will have them make Star Ocean 7 next with increased budget.
The parent company had profit and mentioned SO6 as the "major development achievement" .Currently, there are 4 package games under development and 0 F2P titles. Within NJ, there are mainly two companies that develop CS titles, Tri-Ace and Game Studio, so it seems that at least two titles are made by Tri-Ace.
The parent company had profit and mentioned SO6 as the "major development achievement" .Currently, there are 4 package games under development and 0 F2P titles. Within NJ, there are mainly two companies that develop CS titles, Tri-Ace and Game Studio, so it seems that at least two titles are made by Tri-Ace.
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I expected it to have bombed but if it did that's great to hear. SO6 is a seriously underrated game. It's a PS2 RPG style made with modern conventions, and it mostly all works.
I would hope not because I feel like that would not begin to fix SE problems.
I wonder if this still means square enix has not shut down whatever contract they might have had with Tri-ace following their restructure and write off.
If so6 and second story R are doing decently for square enix as well, it would be weird to abandon their partnership with triace and gem drops entirely.
Edit: oh wait that’s from August 2023. So maybe still nothing.
Tri-Ace's Financial Losses stuff was before the release of Star Ocean the Divine Force I think, so the game pretty much saved them or otherwise there wouldn't be that profit tweet. But maybe SE still think Tri-Ace is not doing good enough for them, with their sky high expectations on video game sales nowadays.
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Well sure, that's one of the primary reason that 売上至上主義 is thought to be an out of fashion and backwards philosophy, because it doesn't actually solve any problems and often just makes everything worse.
Although personally, I don't see SE getting their act together anytime soon, at least not based on what they have announced their plans are for righting the ship.
Tri-Ace being profitable when Star Ocean released for Square Enix doesn't necessarily mean that Star Ocean was profitable, because the primary way Tri-Ace will be making money from the game will be the milestone payments from the publisher(Square Enix) and those get paid regardless of how the game performs.
The most IR news from NJ Holdings is that they reduced their forecast because projects they were hired to develop have been cancelled. Considering both of the publishers they have worked with recently(SE with Star Ocean and DQ Dai, Bandai Namco with Synduality) are restructuring to cut their number of projects it seems likely that those cancellations come from one or both of those.
The most IR news from NJ Holdings is that they reduced their forecast because projects they were hired to develop have been cancelled. Considering both of the publishers they have worked with recently(SE with Star Ocean and DQ Dai, Bandai Namco with Synduality) are restructuring to cut their number of projects it seems likely that those cancellations come from one or both of those.
It's not just that it doesn't tackle the sources to their issues at the moment, it is also the fact that is pretty much ignore them for the all mighty dollar.
My guess at this is that SE would likely chase trends in the pursuit of profit to do that, which isn't the problem at all given that they are already doing that and the response that SE get's from the smaller projects that don't is MUCH better.
I have been saying for a bit that SE trouble begin at the marketing stage of a project and everything that they have done to date seems to support that. Their outreach is terrible, which seems to result in schedule conflicts of it's AA output and the lack of consumers on release. The continued miss-management of the Final Fantasy Franchise can also be pointed to how they manage a release cycle and the marketing to that. This is on top of SIE's woes in Asia, which continue to creep ever larger.
The English version of the parent company report after the release of SO6 (From the link provided by The excellent detailed post by KR_EP) did say that orders related to newly released titles (SO6 included) were favorable and strong orders in the operation support field. So that means what gamebiz said on their tweet on SO6 stuff was not entirely "wrong" imo.
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On the go but SE materials including quote about HD titles being multiplatform being the plan
Also small miss on revenue, big miss on OI (doesn't include the content loss)
Also small miss on revenue, big miss on OI (doesn't include the content loss)
Slides are up: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/news/pdf/24q4slides.pdf
Plan: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/news/pdf/20240513_01_en.pdf
Don't have the time to look at it on my pc.
PS does SE give their assumed and then actual usd:jpy rate?
Plan: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/news/pdf/20240513_01_en.pdf
Don't have the time to look at it on my pc.
PS does SE give their assumed and then actual usd:jpy rate?
No wonder they're restructuring. Two of their most important launches this year, and the HD Games segment not only did not make any money, it doubled its loss over last year. They definitely need to do things differently.
I just hope they're not going to spend all resources on a very small amount of large games like many other publishers, and still allow some room for smaller titles.
Those HD segment losses are fairly telling. That would include any money incentive Sony provided for exclusivity and I doubt Foamstars (though who knows with some of these companies) was the major driver of the losses.
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Did you read the asterisk? Includes MMO games which are mostly digital at this point. If this was only sales of packaged games that also have a physical version this data might be more useful but it includes everything including non- Square Enix games.Interesting physical vs digital split. It might warrant a new thread on it, since it's a continuous point brought up every MC thread.
Wonder if this includes older titles that are still printer as wellInteresting physical vs digital split. It might warrant a new thread on it, since it's a continuous point brought up every MC thread.
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they're seperate on most platforms, with only the minority of copies as physical being a forced bundle.
The revenue per item within the collection is just a regular budget game, they aren't inflating a bunch of $2 sales to make them sound big.
Bye SE Collective.
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Publishing, IT, and Square Enix’s Collective indie games label are affected…
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Well... that is not good.Bye SE Collective.
Square Enix confirms US, Europe layoffs as part of restructuring | VGC
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The question is who is going to develop FF17. The team with FF7 P3 will be busy until 2026 probably and the team that developed FF16 (with Yoshi-P) was disbanded or something.
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A great insider in Resetera(Alex Donaldson), said between the lines that he "thinks" its going to be CBU1 and its probably going to be in pre production until 2026, a Nomura game too
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In pre-prod until 2026? Oh, I guess it is not coming until 2028 at this point.
well that would explain the time table, lol
they need everything from here on out to be multiplat if it's not already tied up. and I still think they need a Final Fantasy sub-series to help maintain the brand and get new users. 2028 for a new major FF is just too long
they need everything from here on out to be multiplat if it's not already tied up. and I still think they need a Final Fantasy sub-series to help maintain the brand and get new users. 2028 for a new major FF is just too long
They don’t necessarily need spin offs just to get more games out, they need to do what the VIIR team is doing and stop throwing everything away and starting from scratch for every game. Rebirth is a much bigger and better game than Remake and only took half the time to make.
I don’t care what type of game they decide to go with, just pick one and build on it.
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I woke up and saw SE being 15% down. What has happened while I was sleeping?
Investors got told of SE money losses.
There is a huge gap between old, dying and dead. =P
I am wondering if SEs statement they still expect FF to meet their 18 month target is a suggestion for multi plat releases, at least PC?
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It's absolutely them banking on a big PC release.
They rolled out the red carpet for FF15, complete with Nvidia sponsorship and being one of the first DLSS games (sure, it was dlss 1.0, but still). And that came off the back of Luminous being touted as a very forward thinking engine, appearing in places like Microsoft Build Conference
They need 16 to hit big, they got to do the same. Have all the features they can, like ray tracing modes and even a path tracing mode
I will be honest, pushing head with a 17 at this point feels like a bad idea.
How soon you forget that Babylon's Fall re-used a bunch of Final Fantasy XIV assets.
Babylon's Fall Contains Gear and Emotes 'Borrowed' From Final Fantasy 14 - IGN
Babylon's Fall, the upcoming online fantasy RPG from Platinum Games and Square Enix contains a range of gear and emotes 'borrowed' from Final Fantasy 14, producer Yosuke Saito confirms.
How soon you forget that Babylon's Fall re-used a bunch of Final Fantasy XIV assets.
Babylon's Fall Contains Gear and Emotes 'Borrowed' From Final Fantasy 14 - IGN
Babylon's Fall, the upcoming online fantasy RPG from Platinum Games and Square Enix contains a range of gear and emotes 'borrowed' from Final Fantasy 14, producer Yosuke Saito confirms.www.ign.com
not that one
Supposedly HARVESTELLA also re-use some assets and animation from Final Fantasy XIV, though couldn't find a definitive confirmation of that.How soon you forget that Babylon's Fall re-used a bunch of Final Fantasy XIV assets.
Babylon's Fall Contains Gear and Emotes 'Borrowed' From Final Fantasy 14 - IGN
Babylon's Fall, the upcoming online fantasy RPG from Platinum Games and Square Enix contains a range of gear and emotes 'borrowed' from Final Fantasy 14, producer Yosuke Saito confirms.
IMO, it's a good thing for a developer to re-use their past work to make development more efficient and keep budget in check.