[RUMOR] Switch 2 and its Joycons visuals have leaked, matches the custom findings. Reveal soon? [UPDATE] Exclusive Vandal report

[ILikeFeet]

the PSSR presentation has only pulled the curtain from people's eyes. "864p!? on a $700 box!?!?111/?". because if you were already a member of r/fucktaa, I'm not sure why this would have surprised you. for everyone else, it shows that they're too obsessed with numbers rather than the image on their tv.

DLSS isn't marketable because it's gibberish to the majority, but with this secondary issue, it's even more not worth talking about it

 

[SquidEnthusiast]

people forget the ignorant and inattentive mind of the average consumer… yes, all of us here are aware of the benefits to a more powerful switch, and it seems appealing. but i 100% guarantee there will be millions of consumers that see this and go ‘oh - i’ve already had the switch experience. this is just the same thing. pass’

playstation doesn’t have this problem as much, the success of their consoles (nowadays) never really has the element of some exciting novelty to discover. it’s probably still a minority overall, but a fair chunk of those purchasing a successful nintendo console ARE doing so because of the gimmick, i really believe that. if this is all the switch 2 is, and if its literally called switch 2, i don't see this being any better a transition than ds-3ds - which is still okay, but a downgrade to be sure. a lot of very casual players will not feel that they need it, bar an extremely unusual and viral strength of casual software like the original wii sports.

I don't really think Nintendo has to get too deep into the weeds with the technical side of the Switch 2. Show a new 3D Mario, show a new Mario Kart, make it clear that these experiences are only available on Switch 2 and people wil come running.

 

[rainbowblight]

people forget the ignorant and inattentive mind of the average consumer… yes, all of us here are aware of the benefits to a more powerful switch, and it seems appealing. but i 100% guarantee there will be millions of consumers that see this and go ‘oh - i’ve already had the switch experience. this is just the same thing. pass’

playstation doesn’t have this problem as much, the success of their consoles (nowadays) never really has the element of some exciting novelty to discover. it’s probably still a minority overall, but a fair chunk of those purchasing a successful nintendo console ARE doing so because of the gimmick, i really believe that. if this is all the switch 2 is, and if its literally called switch 2, i don't see this being any better a transition than ds-3ds - which is still okay, but a downgrade to be sure. a lot of very casual players will not feel that they need it, bar an extremely unusual and viral strength of casual software like the original wii sports.

Regarding bolded point #1: so these Switch users won't want to play the next Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Zelda, Smash, Animal Crossing, etc.? Simply because Switch 2 *may* look similar to Switch 1? Consider me doubtful...

Re: bolded point #2: these gimmick-obsessed consumers sure didn't buy the gimmicky 3DS or Wii U, did they?

None of which is to imply I believe the Switch 2 can't fail. It very well could. If it does, though, it won't be because the final, sold-in-stores hardware looks similar to the Switch 1.

A lot of people talking about the DS-3DS transition are seemingly forgetting the 3DS was *way* too expensive at launch, few actually seemed to want or like the 3D aspect of the system (which helped make it expensive), didn't launch with appealing software, and -- last but def. not least -- many, MANY DS owners left "dedicated" gaming entirely because of mobile gaming and other reasons that had nothing to do with the 3DS itself being unappealing. Few, if any, of these issues are expected to be a problem for the Switch 2.

 

[Multiverse]

Mefears some people don’t understand the GIGANTIC leap this console is. “You can’t sell on visuals alone”. YES, YOU CAN when the leap is this huge. It will be immediately apparent to consumers without much effort. The difference between Switch and Switch 2 games will be very obvious. We’re literally going from blocky games to perfectly smooth 3D here. This isn’t even considering the new gameplay possibilities. I’m certain the next 3D Mario will be fully open world, for example, at 60fps. Bowser’s Fury was a test.

The ultra fast memory also allows for instant world switching. I can see Nintendo taking advantage of that. The next Mario Kart can have you race through 5 tracks at once jumping through portals, for example. Nintendo has also been cleverly and strategically saving certain franchises waiting for the perfect leap to happen (accidentally/coincidently or not). Mario Kart 8 is a Wii U game. It will be 11 years old (in 2025). Odyssey came out 7 years ago. Donkey Kong??? These are ripe for the next major entries that have the power to pull people over. The Switch 2 will have experiences (and visuals) absolutely NOT possible on the current Switch.

Sony’s main problem is the fact that diminishing returns is biting their asses. There’s no leap to sell. The Switch 2 does not have this problem. Nintendo is going from PS3 straight to PS5 here. Like…

This is not a DS to 3DS transition. It’s more inline with the 3DS to Switch.

And there’s no need for Nintendo to mention DLSS. The games themselves will shut everyone up. Bring the house down. People hyperventilating, etc.

 

[salesguy]

Sony’s main problem is the fact that diminishing returns is biting their asses. There’s no leap to sell. Nintendo is going from PS3 straight to PS5 here. Like…

It's going from Ps3 to PS4 is correct. While PS6 is not far away. DLSS isn't magic. It's a slightly better upscaling solution. Not even to mention I saw a twitter thread was lamenting the small battery space these pictures show, and how little power this is going to have to consume in portable mode being a huge hindrance. They're estimating a 20 wh battery, meaning the SOC (not total draw) will have to use 1.5-3w.

I'm bullish on Switch 2 dont get me wrong.

 

[Terrell]

people forget the ignorant and inattentive mind of the average consumer… yes, all of us here are aware of the benefits to a more powerful switch, and it seems appealing. but i 100% guarantee there will be millions of consumers that see this and go ‘oh - i’ve already had the switch experience. this is just the same thing. pass’

That's what the software is meant to facilitate, the transition for people who don't care about hardware capability but will care that there's nothing new to play on the device they have. And you might not get everyone to jump over, but there's an opportunity for such people who don't make the jump to be replaced by new customers who are enticed by this device. Whether they succeed or not in that task is unknowable right now, but it's very possible.

playstation doesn’t have this problem as much, the success of their consoles (nowadays) never really has the element of some exciting novelty to discover. it’s probably still a minority overall, but a fair chunk of those purchasing a successful nintendo console ARE doing so because of the gimmick, i really believe that. if this is all the switch 2 is, and if its literally called switch 2, i don't see this being any better a transition than ds-3ds - which is still okay, but a downgrade to be sure. a lot of very casual players will not feel that they need it, bar an extremely unusual and viral strength of casual software like the original wii sports.

Novelty is necessary when the one you're currently selling to customers has worn off. And one would have a really hard time arguing it has for Switch. And with the last "novelty" being primarily about adapting to consumer lifestyle instead of some flashy input method, there may not be a cap on how that appeals to the consumer, at least not with the immediate follow-up to the device that defined the new "hybrid" console hardware category.

 

[Renmazuo]

Gimmicks are only good insofar as they can provide novel and more importantly quality experiences to the player. Personally I'd rather have nothing than a worthless gimmick like for example the 3D on the 3DS that did basically nothing other than increase the price and hit performance for something you'd use for 15 minutes as novelty and then turn off forever.

The modular nature of the Switch and joycons already allows them to experiment with gimmicks without compromising the whole software library by forcing games to abide some feature built into console. For example Ring Fit Adventure (success) or Labo (failure, imagine if they had designed the Switch around this gimmick). I don't think the potential here has even been fully explored yet.

 

[Aostia82]

Gimmicks are only good insofar as they can provide novel and more importantly quality experiences to the player. Personally I'd rather have nothing than a worthless gimmick like for example the 3D on the 3DS that did basically nothing other than increase the price and hit performance for something you'd use for 15 minutes as novelty and then turn off forever.

The modular nature of the Switch and joycons already allows them to experiment with gimmicks without compromising the whole software library by forcing games to abide some feature built into console. For example Ring Fit Adventure (success) or Labo (failure, imagine if they had designed the Switch around this gimmick). I don't think the potential here has even been fully explored yet.

It would be neat for them to exploit

USB-c port
Magnetic rail attachment to the tablet

to propose possible gimmick-based experiences with hardware accessories/add-ons

and themede JoyCons

 

[Butzke]

Mefears some people don’t understand the GIGANTIC leap this console is. “You can’t sell on visuals alone”. YES, YOU CAN when the leap is this huge. It will be immediately apparent to consumers without much effort. The difference between Switch and Switch 2 games will be very obvious. We’re literally going from blocky games to perfectly smooth 3D here. This isn’t even considering the new gameplay possibilities. I’m certain the next 3D Mario will be fully open world, for example, at 60fps. Bowser’s Fury was a test.

The ultra fast memory also allows for instant world switching. I can see Nintendo taking advantage of that. The next Mario Kart can have you race through 5 tracks at once jumping through portals, for example. Nintendo has also been cleverly and strategically saving certain franchises waiting for the perfect leap to happen (accidentally/coincidently or not). Mario Kart 8 is a Wii U game. It will be 11 years old (in 2025). Odyssey came out 7 years ago. Donkey Kong??? These are ripe for the next major entries that have the power to pull people over. The Switch 2 will have experiences (and visuals) absolutely NOT possible on the current Switch.

Sony’s main problem is the fact that diminishing returns is biting their asses. There’s no leap to sell. Nintendo is going from PS3 straight to PS5 here. Like…

This is not a DS to 3DS transition. It’s more inline with the 3DS to Switch.

And there’s no need for Nintendo to mention DLSS. The games will shut everyone up. Bring the house down. People hyperventilating, etc.

If Switch 2 is as thin as the renders, it will be limited thermally.
You are expecting a 9 watt RTX 2050 (equivalent) with butchered memory bandwidth to be "PS5 like"?

Most third party games will be 30fps, due to the weak CPU and DLSS having too great a cost for Switch 2 at 60fps.

 

[K samedi]

Mefears some people don’t understand the GIGANTIC leap this console is. “You can’t sell on visuals alone”. YES, YOU CAN when the leap is this huge. It will be immediately apparent to consumers without much effort. The difference between Switch and Switch 2 games will be very obvious. We’re literally going from blocky games to perfectly smooth 3D here. This isn’t even considering the new gameplay possibilities. I’m certain the next 3D Mario will be fully open world, for example, at 60fps. Bowser’s Fury was a test.

The ultra fast memory also allows for instant world switching. I can see Nintendo taking advantage of that. The next Mario Kart can have you race through 5 tracks at once jumping through portals, for example. Nintendo has also been cleverly and strategically saving certain franchises waiting for the perfect leap to happen (accidentally/coincidently or not). Mario Kart 8 is a Wii U game. It will be 11 years old (in 2025). Odyssey came out 7 years ago. Donkey Kong??? These are ripe for the next major entries that have the power to pull people over. The Switch 2 will have experiences (and visuals) absolutely NOT possible on the current Switch.

Sony’s main problem is the fact that diminishing returns is biting their asses. There’s no leap to sell. Nintendo is going from PS3 straight to PS5 here. Like…

This is not a DS to 3DS transition. It’s more inline with the 3DS to Switch.

And there’s no need for Nintendo to mention DLSS. The games will shut everyone up. Bring the house down. People hyperventilating, etc.

I think it will have an easier time getting ports but I don't think the graphics leap will be that big. I think they will have a hard time keeping pace with the Switch 1 sales but they will probably do fine none the less.

 

[Valerio]

It would be neat for them to exploit

USB-c port
Magnetic rail attachment to the tablet

to propose possible gimmick-based experiences with hardware accessories/add-ons

I hope this is the direction, sort of embracing the modular computing concept

 

[Aostia82]

Worth reminding people that the GameBoy to GBA transition was the most successful "revolution => iteration" transition in Nintendo's history, and the GBA was about as boring of a GameBoy successor as you could get.

well, we went from vertical to horizontal form factor
THAT was a pretty evident change lol

Ythe best GBA still is the SP, of course, with its clamshell design)

 

[awng782]

well, we went from vertical to horizontal form factor
THAT was a pretty evident change lol

Ythe best GBA still is the SP, of course, with its clamshell design)

So your concern is that the Switch 2 physically looks too similar to the Switch 1, as opposed to Switch 2 not having a hugely innovative USP or gimmick (that we know of)?

I dunno, I feel like this is a non-issue. If this is something that actually needs to be addressed, then it can be done in very simple ways:
- Change the color palette
- Redesign the dock (sorta like the OLED model dock)
- Emphasize the much larger screen and magnetic JoyCons
- Print the Switch 2 logo on the console and dock as opposed to a Switch 1 logo (this is guaranteed to happen lmao)

 

[Aostia82]

So your concern is that the Switch 2 physically looks too similar to the Switch 1, as opposed to Switch 2 not having a hugely innovative USP or gimmick (that we know of)?

I dunno, I feel like this is a non-issue. If this is something that actually needs to be addressed, then it can be done in very simple ways:
- Change the color palette
- Redesign the dock (sorta like the OLED model dock)
- Emphasize the much larger screen and magnetic JoyCons
- Print the Switch 2 logo on the console and dock as opposed to a Switch 1 logo (this is guaranteed to happen lmao)

it's a matter of "perception" from the mass-market consumer POV
(it's not exactly my concern, let's say)

was the GBA evidently a new console? yes, also due to the form factor; no new gimmick, only new games but it was obvious it was a new generation also thanks to a evidently way of keeping the object in your hand/pocket. maybe less "kid-oriented", more serious (for the concept of those days) and so on

so it's not only or necessarily the gimmick, also the form factor...factors in, here, imho

but once again: I'm not doomposting, I'm just trying to discuss about: will the "safe" concept/design/form factor impact the transition? to me it could
can this "issue" be softened? absolutely yes
how?

even just in the few pages, you and others have come up with interesting ideas

new dock design
new/more enphasized joycon magnetic "grip" maybe even with specific add-ons
USB-c powered hardware gimmick
"unprecedent" games (like CoD or Genshin) underlining the new software possibilities (in terms of raw power, gameplay experiences, third party support)

I think to be succesfull a product needs MANY elements, merged together

 

[Ghostsonplanets]

you guys are right, seeing it in the flesh is a tad boring. however i guess once we see whizbang games running on it it will suddenly be cool again

but, i'm kind of torn about how much larger it seems. these really big portable like steam deck, Logitech g cloud, are not very comfortable or portable imo.

call me insane but it almost might have been neater if they went smaller. perhaps keep the switch 1 screen size, but make all the bezels and surrounding smaller so that the overall unit was more svelte.

look at the retroid pocket 5 as an example of what i mean, what might be cool size wize. by boutique company retroid so it must be profitable, and it has a sd865, 5.5" AMOLED and 6gb ram for the base model at $219

Either way, I predict Switch 2 will sell a kerjbillion.

These are not the most flattering Switch 2 pics because of the drab colorway etc.

Hard to get a hardware leap with smaller device. Tabletop also suffers from a smaller screen. I think 8 inch is the ideal size. But they'll need a Lite later.

DLSS will be that "hidden" feature. "Now you can play all classic Nintendo-games on Nintendo Online in HD-graphics, crisp and clean!" would basically be giving these games are free remaster treatment. Plus maybe we'll finally get GameCube on Nintendo Online, too.

DLSS can't be applied to games like a toggle. It needs developers to patch every game and these games needs to expose the correct requirements for that.

 

[Tokuiten]

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DLSS can't be applied to games like a toggle. It needs developers to patch every game and these games needs to expose the correct requirements for that.

Is that still true for the newer versions of DLSS?

And couldn't it be done for all Virtual Console-games in one swoop, like, instead of 'per game', it'd be done 'per system'?

 

[Ghostsonplanets]

Is that still true for the newer versions of DLSS?

Yes. And also will keep being true to all DLSS versions going forward. It needs to be integrated by the developers per game and for the developers to expose motion vectors and TAA pipeline.

And couldn't it be done for all Virtual Console-games in one swoop, like, instead of 'per game', it'd be done 'per system'?

No. And VC games are the worst target possible for DLSS because they lack the motion vectors and TAA rendering pipeline pioneered by late PS3/X360 games which is needed for DLSS to work.

DLSS will be used for new games and possible by patched Switch games.

Anything else will just use simple upscaling technology like FSR1 or Nintendo will just let TVs scale the content properly.

 

[Multiverse]

Methinks this video is pretty accurate of what they’ll do with the Switch 2 brand and marketing.



I’m specifically talking about the logo animation. They did a great job. I can see Nintendo actually doing something similar. Because of the new magnetic joy-cons mechanism, all Switch 2 trailers will start with the joy-cons snapping in side ways instead of click sliding on top like they’ve been doing with the Switch. It is an undeniable differentiating feature.

 

[Aostia82]

Methinks this video is pretty accurate of what they’ll do with the Switch 2 brand and marketing.



I’m specifically talking about the logo animation. All Switch 2 trailers will have the joy-cons snapping in side ways instead of click sliding on top like they’ve been doing with the Switch.

Wow, well done

 

[Joseki]

Methinks this video is pretty accurate of what they’ll do with the Switch 2 brand and marketing.



I’m specifically talking about the logo animation. They did a great job. I can see Nintendo actually doing something similar. Because of the new magnetic joy-cons mechanism, all Switch 2 trailers will have the joy-cons snapping in side ways instead of click sliding on top like they’ve been doing with the Switch. It is an undeniable differentiating feature.

Add a different "click" sound and I can see the logo animation being similar to that if the joycon are indeed magnetic.

 

[Aostia82]

Uuuuh....it's huge..?

 

[SoonyXboneUhh]

Switch U made me laugh

 

[Tokuiten]

Uuuuh....it's huge..?

Eh, I don't like how she's presenting all that as facts, even though she says 'rumored' later on. This felt like watching an official presentation, I'd be seriously worried about 'Nintendo ninjas' if I were her, lol.

One thing I got say, though: She calls the new bezel thin, but to my eye the Switch 2's bezel looks really big in her printed model. The OLED's bezel looks sleeker. But maybe it's all persectives, plus she's probably a tiny Chinese woman which makes Switch 2 appear extra big ;D

Ultimately, I think Nintendo won't wait much longer to get control over the news flow. Can't let leaked rumors dominate public discourse.

 

[ILikeFeet]

I'd be seriously worried about 'Nintendo ninjas' if I were her, lol.

she'll be fine. she does have to not give up where she got that data from though. because it seems an accessory maker is quite leaky

 

[Agazorth]

Guys, you've been waiting since 2020. You can wait a few more months (since I don't believe Nintendo will reveal it in October to avoid a drop in Switch sales)

 

[Joseki]

Well visually at least no one is mistaking that CHUNKY BOY for a current Switch, that's for sure.

 

[Shezard]

Uuuuh....it's huge..?

There it is, the gimmick we were looking for. If the camera + enhanced tracking sensors within the new joycons combo is real (I don't think she has any source besides probably some external design blueprints from a 3rd party case maker), we could be talking about a combination of the most successful Nintendo home consoles in history

Switch 2 = Swiitch

Lately, I tend to think that companies that focuses in a single offering do better that those diversifying portfolio. But in this case, I totally see Nintendo focusing on "Switch 2", as in more hardware power and so on, and leaving the Swiitch factor for party games and new IPs.

Call me old or nostalgic, but I still beleive in Nintendo surprising us with something else, a feature that was not leaked yet.

 

[Aostia82]

There it is, the gimmick we were looking for. If the camera + enhanced tracking sensors within the new joycons combo is real (I don't think she has any source besides probably some external design blueprints from a 3rd party case maker), we could be talking about a combination of the most successful Nintendo home consoles in history

Switch 2 = Swiitch

Lately, I tend to think that companies that focuses in a single offering do better that those diversifying portfolio. But in this case, I totally see Nintendo focusing on "Switch 2", as in more hardware power and so on, and leaving the Swiitch factor for party games and new IPs.

Call me old or nostalgic, but I still beleive in Nintendo surprising us with something else, a feature that was not leaked yet.

I didn't understand a single word of that video: do you have some sort of summary?

 

[SoonyXboneUhh]

I didn't understand a single word of that video: do you have some sort of summary?

you can activate English subs

 

[Joseki]

I didn't understand a single word of that video: do you have some sort of summary?

It's a summary of already reported rumors and a visual comparison, nothing new.

 

[Tokuiten]

It's a summary of already reported rumors and a visual comparison, nothing new.

Was the dual-fans thing known? That had me slightly worried in regards to fan noise.

 

[Shezard]

I didn't understand a single word of that video: do you have some sort of summary?

I watched it with english subs. This is mostly old rumours from Fami, but I didn't know about the upper USB-c port ment to be there to connect a camera that, in combination with Joycons able to really track movement, would bring back the game mechanics of Wii games.

Pure especulation, but could be really interesting.

 

[Aostia82]

ith english subs. This is mostly old rumours from Fami, but I didn't know about the upper USB-c port ment to be there to connect a camera that, in combination with Joycons able to really track movement, would bring back the game mechanics of Wii games.

Pure especulation, but could be really interesting.

ith english subs. This is mostly old rumours from Fami, but I didn't know about the upper USB-c port ment to be there to connect a camera that, in combination with Joycons able to really track movement, would bring back the game mechanics of Wii games.

Pure especulation, but could be really interesting.

ith english subs. This is mostly old rumours from Fami, but I didn't know about the upper USB-c port ment to be there to connect a camera that, in combination with Joycons able to really track movement, would bring back the game mechanics of Wii games.

Pure especulation, but could be really interesting.

thanks everyone
yesterday has been a really stressing day IRL


lol

 

[Joseki]

Was the dual-fans thing known? That had me slightly worried in regards to fan noise.

It's all stuff from Famiboards/shipment data.

 

[ILikeFeet]

Was the dual-fans thing known? That had me slightly worried in regards to fan noise.

The tablet has one fan. The dock has the other

 

[Tokuiten]

The tablet has one fan. The dock has the other

At 1:23 she mentions dual-fans as if that's something new. You mean the same?

 

[ILikeFeet]

At 1:23 she mentions dual-fans as if that's something new. You mean the same?

I don't know how she's referring to "dual fans" but given how much of this info is coming from shipping data found by famiboards, it's best to refer to that than anything else who can't conclusively state something. The tablet has one fan, the dock has one fan. Any other config is stretching beyond what can be surmised from found data

 

[randomengine]

This has probably been mentioned previously, but noticed a few things about the design:

• It appears there are asymmetrical contact points on the center of the joycons. This is to insure that you don't put the controllers in upside down or in the wrong orientation. It literally uses round pegs and square holes.
• The electromagnet appears to only be on one contact point - the bottom - of each joycon. To insure a good connection, instead of rails, there is a sleeved design so the controllers won't go in the z-axis once connected. The magnet must be strong enough to keep the controllers attached as long as the mechanism is being powered or activated.
• The sleeved design gives the controllers more vertical real estate, especially to have better trigger buttons in the detached state.

 

[Aostia82]

Btw, for those fearing a "diminishing return" of the USP of a simple Switch2, there are new rumors out there about

A dock station that could stream to the TV even without the console in it - possibly for a better local multiplayer mode without split screen (1 player on the TV, the other on the console) or for a dual-screen experience à la Wii U

And

A console with dual screen, 1 to be put in the dock (with the actual hardware to process the game), 1 that can be played on-the-go for dual screen gaming à la Wii U

The second is backed by a Nintendo patent

 

[Joseki]

Btw, for those fearing a "diminishing return" of the USP of a simple Switch2, there are new rumors out there about

A dock station that could stream to the TV even without the console in it - possibly for a better local multiplayer mode without split screen (1 player on the TV, the other on the console) or for a dual-screen experience à la Wii U

And

A console with dual screen, 1 to be put in the dock (with the actual hardware to process the game), 1 that can be played on-the-go for dual screen gaming à la Wii U

The second is backed by a Nintendo patent

If the patent is public now then it's a concept that was dropped and won't be included in the console, historical precedent would indicate.

 

[Chris1964]

Switch Pro vibes with everyone knowing its existance and announcement being imminent are back.

 

[ILikeFeet]

Btw, for those fearing a "diminishing return" of the USP of a simple Switch2, there are new rumors out there about

A dock station that could stream to the TV even without the console in it - possibly for a better local multiplayer mode without split screen (1 player on the TV, the other on the console) or for a dual-screen experience à la Wii U

And

A console with dual screen, 1 to be put in the dock (with the actual hardware to process the game), 1 that can be played on-the-go for dual screen gaming à la Wii U

The second is backed by a Nintendo patent

neither of these rumors have a shred of credibility. both are pretty illogical at that, IMO

 

[Joseki]

Switch Pro vibes with everyone knowing its existance and announcement is imminent are back.

I think it's fair to say that at this point the reveal is either in the next 30 days or in January-February.

 

[KarlRemarx]

Btw, for those fearing a "diminishing return" of the USP of a simple Switch2, there are new rumors out there about

A dock station that could stream to the TV even without the console in it - possibly for a better local multiplayer mode without split screen (1 player on the TV, the other on the console) or for a dual-screen experience à la Wii U

And

A console with dual screen, 1 to be put in the dock (with the actual hardware to process the game), 1 that can be played on-the-go for dual screen gaming à la Wii U

The second is backed by a Nintendo patent

Like Joseki mentioned the usual routine with a public patent is that it is a discarded concept, but in any case these concepts seem like poor ideas for the trade-off of significantly increasing manufacturing costs. The WiiU's central concept of splitting your attention between a TV and a handheld was not appealing to the mass market, and was at the end of the day a worse implementation of the DS concept. The system's best games didn't make any substantial use of this either, just glorified menu navigation. Likewise, adding additional hardware to the dock to address issues with split screen, when Nintendo's most popular split screen games tend towards 3+ player experiences (so you'd be splitting the main screen anyway), seems like only a fringe benefit?

I find the top USBC port in the leaked design way more interesting - they could do countless things with that functionality that do not incur extra manufacturing costs in the base unit.

 

[Drblitzk]

Switch Pro vibes with everyone knowing its existance and announcement being imminent are back.

Exactly my thoughts.

I think it's fair to say that at this point the reveal is either in the next 30 days or in January-February.

Why the next 30 days? Because people are fucking impatient?

 

[Lelouch0612]

Exactly my thoughts.

Why the next 30 days? Because people are fucking impatient?

Because it won't be in November/December, aka Nintendo's two biggest months of the year.

 

[Joseki]

Exactly my thoughts.

Why the next 30 days? Because people are fucking impatient?

In november and december Nintendo will be laser-focused on the last holiday season of the Switch as their main console.
I also categorically exclude any reveal or teaser at The Game Awards, Nintendo doesn't like to share the spotlight.

 

[Drblitzk]

I know that, my point is that the only reason people say that it could be announced in the next 30 days is because they are impatient, including those “insiders”.

 

[Danny]

I know that, my point is that the only reason people say that it could be announced in the next 30 days is because they are impatient, including those “insiders”.

It solely depends on when the Switch 2 is slated for release, if its more early 2025 like in april or so, it will be announced this year. If Switch 2 is late 2025 launch then we won't hear anything until next year.

 

[awng782]

Btw, for those fearing a "diminishing return" of the USP of a simple Switch2, there are new rumors out there about

A dock station that could stream to the TV even without the console in it - possibly for a better local multiplayer mode without split screen (1 player on the TV, the other on the console) or for a dual-screen experience à la Wii U

And

A console with dual screen, 1 to be put in the dock (with the actual hardware to process the game), 1 that can be played on-the-go for dual screen gaming à la Wii U

The second is backed by a Nintendo patent

I maintain that anything dual-screen is a very bad idea for Switch 2. This isn't the NDS/3DS era anymore when Nintendo was working with low-resolution 192p-240p panels. Having hardware that ships with two 1080p/720p displays would be expensive as fuck, especially if both displays must function independently from one another and are thus completely separate hardware units.