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Placeholder? You can check on their socials or website, the April 2nd is very clear everywhere.
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Wow so it really surprises me they decided that as it can be very early in the morning for people in US and that is honestly strange as its their biggest market in Japan.
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Let’s be real, most people aren’t watching any Directs live as they happen, so this is what they can do to get the most eyes possible on it for those that intend to.
This isn’t a TV show or a sporting event or something, it’s an advertisement. There’s no such thing as “spoilers” for an advertisement IMO, people telling you what’s in a marketing presentation is its entire function, to inform consumers about a product. Only a select few gamers have a different view on that, even among the hardcore. I, for example, watched the Switch 2 reveal when I got out of bed, several hours after most other 8 million people or so had already seen it on YT and I was fine with that.
The date doesn't mean much tbh. Take the latest NSO additions:
Trailer clearly mentions January 24th, but in NA, that update was on the 23rd. So it might very be on the 2nd in most regions, but on the 1st/3rd in others.
Though quite frankly, I'd be really surprised if this wasn't at the usual Nintendo Direct slot (7AM PT / 10AM ET / 3PM GMT / 4PM CEST / 11PM JST). That or at the same at time as the reveal video itself (so 2h ealier
Maybe the video editor at NoA is bad at timezones.
What is time
I don't agree with the idea that the date doesn't mean much in this case. Take a look at the tweet issued by the Australian Nintendo Twitter account presentations
and compare it to how they usually present upcoming Nintendo Directs
It doesn't seem like a placeholder when checking the official website for Australia / New Zealand either
Nintendo Direct: Nintendo Switch 2 - 02.04.2025 | Nintendo
Nintendo Direct: Nintendo Switch 2 – 02.04.2025 will air at 00:00 AEDT between April 2nd and 3rd, 2025, offering a closer look at Nintendo Switch 2.
Therefore, I think when they mean April 2nd across EU, Australia, New Zealand, USA and Japan, they really mean it.
I suppose the potential timeslot change compared to their usual modus operandi is justified by wanting the event to take place on April 2nd everywhere because they seem to really
really
realy
really
really want to communicate that this is the Nintendo Switch 2 in as many ways as possible, even the most unexpected ones.
EDIT: ...or to be more accurate, the Direct needs to air on April 2nd across all the timezones they use to promote their Directs, which for Australia / New Zealand corresponds strictly to AEDT / AEST depending on the period of the year.
This is the only possible time range for the event to be on April 2nd in all announced territories. It's terrible for basically all main markets.
Would you be able to check the same schedule but strictly with AEDT / AEST (I think right for that week it would still be the former)?
EDIT2: If the timezone used by NoAU is, once again, AEDT, then this could be the potential timeslot the Direct will air at: https://everytimezone.com/?t=67ec7e00,870
For those who can't check the link, it'd be 05:00 PDT / 08:00 EDT / 14:00 CEST / 21:00 JST / 23:00 AEDT.
Given Nintendo's new obsession with the number 2, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual airing starting times times turn out to be
05:02 PDT / 08:02 EDT / 14:02 CEST / 21:02 JST / 23:02 AEDT.
05:02 PDT / 08:02 EDT / 14:02 CEST / 21:02 JST / 23:02 AEDT.
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This was definitely in line with what I was expecting based on how they boxed themselves in on the timing by setting the same date across that broad cross-section of time zones. At this point, there’s no sense in them being coy about what time it will air as they have been.I don't agree with the idea that the date doesn't mean much in this case. Take a look at the tweet issued by the Australian Nintendo Twitter account presentations
and compare it to how they usually present upcoming Nintendo Directs
It doesn't seem like a placeholder when checking the official website for Australia / New Zealand either
Nintendo Direct: Nintendo Switch 2 - 02.04.2025 | Nintendo
Nintendo Direct: Nintendo Switch 2 – 02.04.2025 will air at 00:00 AEDT between April 2nd and 3rd, 2025, offering a closer look at Nintendo Switch 2.www.nintendo.com
Therefore, I think when they mean April 2nd across EU, Australia, New Zealand, USA and Japan, they really mean it.
I suppose the potential timeslot change compared to their usual modus operandi is justified by wanting the event to take place on April 2nd everywhere because they seem to really
really
realy
really
really want to communicate that this is the Nintendo Switch 2 in as many ways as possible, even the most unexpected ones.
EDIT: ...or to be more accurate, the Direct needs to air on April 2nd across all the timezones they use to promote their Directs, which for Australia / New Zealand corresponds strictly to AEDT / AEST depending on the period of the year.
Would you be able to check the same schedule but strictly with AEDT / AEST (I think right for that week it would still be the former)?
EDIT2: If the timezone used by NoAU is, once again, AEDT, then this could be the potential timeslot the Direct will air at: https://everytimezone.com/?t=67ec7e00,870
For those who can't check the link, it'd be 05:00 PDT / 08:00 EDT / 14:00 CEST / 21:00 JST / 23:00 AEDT.
Given Nintendo's new obsession with the number 2, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual airing starting times times turn out to be
05:02 PDT / 08:02 EDT / 14:02 CEST / 21:02 JST / 23:02 AEDT.
So Switch 2 will have backwards compatibility with Switch games. The trailer mentions digital games as well. So do you think will I be able to transfer my digital games from Switch to Switch 2?
Almost certainly, early on Nintendo said their current account system would be moving forward. It might not be much different from moving to new Switch currently.
Transfer process might take some time, nowadays its usually easier to just login with your account onto your new Switch - in this case the Switch 2 -and just re download the games. Especially if they might have new updated/native versions of certain Switch games to download, you would be able to download the updated versions asap.
As friendcode said, i would expect it to work like with every Switch right now.
I think they will give the precise time as a second announcement of the Direct a couple of days before the event.
Should we expect a blurb or two out of the upcoming shareholder meeting? Now that the things finally out there I'm sure people will be asking in the Q&A about it.
? Seems fine for Europe and Japan though?
This is the only possible time range for the event to be on April 2nd in all announced territories. It's terrible for basically all main markets.
That would mean that the eShop will already have all Switch games to begin with?
Yeah, it kinda has to with digital BC confirmed. You'll need to access and be able to redownload your Switch 1 content from the Switch 2 eShop.
Everything is tied to your Nintendo account nowadays anyways.
But how will Cross-Save be handled?
I’d imagine the same way it works now. The only issue would be if there was some Switch 2 specific upgrade that made your save incompatible.
They will probably brag about the engagement metrics of the announcement.
By moving the Direct a few hours later, and by looking at what @MarcoP90 posted about Nintendo AUNZ's timezone it should be the case, there is actually a big improvement: it's easier for US to wake up and follow the event, EU isn't in lunch break and Japan is at home and not commuting to home.
I think your times are 2-4 hours earlier in the day than what will probably be the actual time, that would potentially look like this:
For the US I agree.
For EU, I think it would be easier to follow a gaming event during lunch break rather than right in the middle of working hours.
For Japan... depends on who the primary target audience is. If it's kids, probably better to do it on the earlier side. If it's working adults, who knows when they'll even be home after work.
In all cases: I'm probably screwed (GMT -10).
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Sharing this since the source is reliable when it comes to Microsoft.
We might only get confirmation of cross-gen games until April 2025.
"Why this extreme secrecy?Because it seems that any game exclusive to the Switch 2 requires special permission from Nintendo before it can be announced. This would be a strategy to control the hype and prevent leaks until the company decides to reveal more official technical information about its new console."
We might only get confirmation of cross-gen games until April 2025.
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Will be very interested to see how Doom Dark Ages runs on switch 2 since it requires Ray Tracing hardware.
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That's reasonable, especially with a potential Switch 1 direct on the horizon, they don't want fo the Switch 1 userbase to feel bad because they're missing out. Also gives more bullets for the April Direct.
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Well... it has ray tracing hardware. A top-of-class dedicated RT hardware solution (Nvidia RT cores) to boot, albeit one that will certainly be limited by the Switch 2's TDP compared to a standard Ampere graphics card.
If that is a requirement, it could actually perofrm better than other consoles?
Would be mind blowing
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Framing this as Nintendo wanting to wait for technical information seems misguided. They just want to control the narrative so that they are the ones to confirm that their next hardware cycle will get current AAA projects from day one and to present how they’ll look. Not unreasonable, I suppose, but it just means we will be waiting longer for more software details (that will probably leak without context of visual performance anyways, like this).
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That's what makes it interesting. If even in a mobile batterypowered formfactor the Nvidia tech allows the Switch 2 to match or reach comparable levels of RT to the PS5/XBS consoles, then I can't see anything holding back ports to the Switch 2. It should in theory run everything those systems can.
It'll be fascinating from a technical perspective (e.g. a combination of sub-Series S rasterisation settings in some areas but matching/exceeding Series S at RT and upscaling?), as idtech tends to be!
I'd say it's even in 3rd party partners' best interest to actually time announcements for maximum visibility around the rest of Switch 2's marketing activity. The other element is that if features like mouse-con are real (which may be the "technical information" being referred to here), then there's a very obvious incentive in Doom's case to actually wait for the official reveal of the feature and demonstrate it in a genre that very obviously benefits from it.
Meh, the withheld info's only.gonna last a couple of months, if Nintendo really is telling everybody to hold off for the big Direct it may well be quite the blowout we're in for.
It won't be better, the costs are lesser. The gap between series s and Switch 2 will be narrower, but I don't expect Doom to be 60fps.
I wonder if a lot of stuff in the April Direct will be leaked. I vaguely recall that information in the January 2017 Presentation did get leaked from 4chan or somewhere else, but that was a physical venue so I suppose it makes sense why there were leaks associated with it.
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As I see some people are discussing the topic on Reddit and even some english news sites, yes, there is an Italian website that opened (and closed) preorders for 365€ (actually 350€ without shipping). This is hardly an indicator of the final price because the website is known to undercut retail prices in exchange for getting paid before release, they often sell preorders for new games for 45/50€ if they are far away and slowly raise the price (for people who order them later) as the release aproaches. If anything this should tell us the price is most likely above 350€, which everyone expected.
I actually brought this up last week in this thread. (I'm not affiliated with the website and the Switch 2 preorders are now closed but I won't name them again just in case)
I actually brought this up last week in this thread. (I'm not affiliated with the website and the Switch 2 preorders are now closed but I won't name them again just in case)
I think this may point towards a $400 price point all things considered, I don't think they'd try to undercut much further than that.
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Expect April 1st to be flooded with fake leaks everywhere (specially given the day).
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The thing is it was a limited preorder offer, they probably only took a few hundreds of orders at most, when taking into account the retailer's cut of the final price I wouldn't be surprised if the final price is 450€ and they just did it for PR/hoping people would preorder MK9/Prime 4 and other games (which all have open preorder pages on their store) to make up for any loss they might face. Also 15€ shipping is quite expensive, that's definitely helping them make the ends meet.
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I don't think they know the final price. They basically took a calculated risk imho.
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Yeah, I think so too to an extent, they are a reliable website, I got games from them before, but I don't think they are big enought to know this early, even if they are retailers. At the end of the day they got thousands of euros in preorders they can use for the next 6 months with nothing to be given back before then, most businesses wish they could have this kind of sudden cash flow.
Oh, I forgot about that. That will be one thing to expect and ignore on that date then.
Same here, there's clearly some sort of embargo going on as there hasn't been any notable announcements over the past couple of weeks despite the reveal. Even Playtonic and Pathea Games who previously announced games for a mysterious "new Nintendo console" didn't even have a follow-up PR (or even tweet) to confirm that "yeah, we were talking about Switch 2, betcha didn't see that one coming huh?".
unironically, I'd like to see what crazy shit people can come up with now that we're on the verge of new hardware. hell, maybe someone will slip in real info
Of course there'll be something for the press, no way preview hands-on are going to be general public-only. Though whether or not there'll be at the same venues remains to be seen.
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