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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2024 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)

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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2024 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)

01./01. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14} (¥6.980)
02./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party: Jamboree <ETC> (Nintendo) {2024.10.17} (¥6.480)
03./02. [PS5] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14} (¥6.980)
04./04. [NSW] Mario & Luigi: Brothership <RPG> (Nintendo) {2024.11.07} (¥6.480)
05./00. [NSW] Disney Music Parade: Encore <ACT> (Imagineer) {2024.11.21} (¥5.980)

Top 5


NSW - 4
PS5 - 1

(Taiwan)
01./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party: Jamboree <ETC> (Nintendo) {2024.10.17}
02./01. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14}
03./02. [PS5] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14}
04./00. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.10.20}
05./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom <ADV> (Nintendo) {2024.09.26}

Top 5

NSW - 4
PS5 - 1

(South Korea)
01./02. [NSW] Super Mario Party: Jamboree <ETC> (Nintendo) {2024.10.17}
02./03. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
03./01. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14}
04./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom <ADV> (Nintendo) {2024.09.26}
05./00. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports <SPT> (Nintendo) {2022.04.29}

Top 5

NSW - 5


Famitsu Sales: Week 47, 2024 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)

01./01. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14} (¥6.980) - 70.993 / 712.188 <80-100%> (-89%)
02./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party: Jamboree <ETC> (Nintendo) {2024.10.17} (¥6.480) - 34.014 / 476.607 <80-100%> (+4%)
03./02. [PS5] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.11.14} (¥6.980) - 20.369 / 200.944 <80-100%> (-89%)
04./04. [NSW] Mario & Luigi: Brothership <RPG> (Nintendo) {2024.11.07} (¥6.480) - 9.920 / 88.529 <40-60%> (-35%)
05./00. [NSW] Disney Music Parade: Encore <ACT> (Imagineer) {2024.11.21} (¥5.980) - 9.260 / NEW <20-40%>
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 9.001 / 6.064.932 <80-100%> (+59%)
07./00. [NSW] Stray # <ADV> (Happinet) {2024.11.19} (¥4.000) - 7.779 / NEW <40-60%>
08./28. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: The Earth Spins with Hope! <TBL> (Konami) {2023.11.16} (¥6.300) - 7.482 / 1.161.525 <80-100%> (+464%)
09./00. [NSW] Marvel Vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics <X-Men: Children of the Atom \ X-Men Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Super Heroes \ Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes \ Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 \ The Punisher> <FTG> (Capcom) {2024.11.22} (¥5.990) - 5.749 / NEW <20-40%>
10./08. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 5.706 / 3.682.045 <80-100%> (+20%)
11./06. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 5.623 / 7.959.955 <80-100%> (-3%)
12./09. [NSW] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.10.24} (¥6.200) - 4.284 / 100.577 <80-100%> (-6%)
13./13. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 4.102 / 5.620.472 <80-100%> (+21%)
14./21. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 3.671 / 3.655.862 <80-100%> (+84%)
15./12. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom <ADV> (Nintendo) {2024.09.26} (¥6.980) - 3.587 / 306.520 <80-100%> (-2%)
16./16. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2022.04.29} (¥4.980) - 3.495 / 1.463.731 <80-100%> (+30%)
17./19. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2022.11.18} (¥5.980) - 3.301 / 5.440.625 <80-100%> (+41%)
18./00. [NSW] SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos <FTG> (SNK) {2024.11.21} (¥3.600) - 2.992 / NEW <40-60%>
19./00. [PS4] Marvel Vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics <X-Men: Children of the Atom \ X-Men Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Super Heroes \ Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes \ Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 \ The Punisher> <FTG> (Capcom) {2024.11.22} (¥5.990) - 2.989 / NEW <40-60%>
20./11. [NSW] Suika Game: Special Edition <PZL> (Aladdin X) {2024.11.14} (¥2.700) - 2.392 / 6.182 <20-40%> (-37%)
21./10. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980) - 2.228 / 1.053.629 <80-100%> (-50%)
22./18. [PS5] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.10.24} (¥6.200) - 2.061 / 45.444 <80-100%> (-19%)
23./15. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2024.10.25} (¥8.909) - 2.036 / 44.667 <80-100%> (-25%)
24./14. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 2.007 / 2.524.184 <80-100%> (-29%)
25./20. [NSW] Power Pros 2024-2025 <SPT> (Konami) {2024.07.18} (¥7.700) - 1.881 / 318.632 <80-100%> (-10%)
26./29. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 1.858 / 3.040.983 <80-100%> (+42%)
27./25. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.10.20} (¥5.980) - 1.808 / 1.945.189 <80-100%> (+28%)
28./27. [NSW] Splatoon 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2022.09.09} (¥5.980) - 1.683 / 4.381.789 <80-100%> (+22%)
29./17. [PS5] Professional Baseball Spirits 2024-2025 <SPT> (Konami) {2024.10.17} (¥8.900) - 1.572 / 93.165 <80-100%> (-40%)
30./05. [NSW] Beyblade X: XOne <ACT> (FuRyu) {2024.11.14} (¥7.480) - 1.524 / 11.031 <20-40%> (-84%)

Top 30

NSW - 25
PS5 - 4
PS4 - 1

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|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |     69.135 |     62.158 |     71.684 |  2.656.893 |  3.627.269 |  34.443.549 |
| PS5 # |     25.573 |     23.672 |     59.235 |  1.292.270 |  2.375.097 |   6.257.127 |
| XBS # |      2.657 |      3.070 |      2.133 |    103.789 |    134.376 |     643.896 |
| PS4 # |         34 |         35 |      2.080 |     13.491 |     66.711 |   9.504.550 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     97.399 |     88.935 |    135.165 |  4.066.605 |  6.206.402 |  75.450.214 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|PS5 Pro|     10.128 |     13.878 |            |    102.092 |            |     102.092 |
|  PS5  |      6.099 |      8.462 |     49.833 |    978.950 |  2.060.361 |   5.277.120 |
| PS5DE |      9.346 |      1.332 |      9.402 |    211.228 |    314.736 |     877.915 |
|XBS XDE|      1.132 |      1.308 |            |      9.081 |            |       9.081 |
| XBS X |        756 |        743 |      1.834 |     64.965 |     66.586 |     309.949 |
| XBS S |        769 |      1.019 |        299 |     29.743 |     67.790 |     324.866 |
|NSWOLED|     48.373 |     38.491 |     49.380 |  1.833.147 |  2.566.102 |   8.261.305 |
| NSW L |     14.432 |     18.416 |     13.364 |    558.159 |    492.446 |   6.232.233 |
|  NSW  |      6.330 |      5.251 |      8.940 |    265.587 |    568.721 |  19.950.011 |
|  PS4  |         34 |         35 |      2.080 |     13.491 |     66.711 |   7.928.827 |
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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2024 (Nov 11 - Nov 17)
 
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I never understand this line of reasoning. If it were so easy to make a game do 23 million in sales through “fudging the numbers” why are games like Death Stranding, Days Gone, Star Wars, Avatar, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy or any other important AAA franchises not also using that method?

A lot of those games also had bundles and discounts btw. You can buy FFXVI for 20 dollars right now. Shit, Horizon has outsold other playstation franchises that I know Sony values a lot more, like The Last of US


I'm not disagreeing with you, but let's keep in mind the meaningful difference between first party and third party games, in "fudging the numbers" with bundles and so on

but again, I'm not disagreeing with you: I still laugh at people saying that Wii Sport sold just because it was bundled for example

Still, its numbers would have been lower, without hardware bundle, I think
 
I never understand this line of reasoning. If it were so easy to make a game do 23 million in sales through “fudging the numbers” why are games like Death Stranding, Days Gone, Star Wars, Avatar, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy or any other important AAA franchises not also using that method?

A lot of those games also had bundles and discounts btw. You can buy FFXVI for 20 dollars right now. Shit, Horizon has outsold other playstation franchises that I know Sony values a lot more, like The Last of US
Because those aren't first party titles and can't just make bundles happen on a whim? I mean I don't really have a horse in this race one way or the other but that seems obvious.
 
I do think doubling down on the Lite makes sense as it's a more differentiated model from Switch 2, and like 2DS I can see Lite as the basis for a potential end cycle remodel (also phasing out Switch 1 joycons) adding in things from the other models that were popular (dock/cradle, OLED, expanded storage, etc) for a more premium price.
I do like the idea of going the N2DS route with the Switch Lite. Say $250 for a Lite OLED with more storage and the new kickstand. But sell the dock and extra controllers separately so to keep the price down.
 
I do like the idea of going the N2DS route with the Switch Lite. Say $250 for a Lite OLED with more storage and the new kickstand. But sell the dock and extra controllers separately so to keep the price down.
Yeah, dock capability but the dock itself sold separately would make sense to bring cost down. Also make it Joycon 2 compatible to aid in phasing out original Joycons.
 
Because those aren't first party titles and can't just make bundles happen on a whim? I mean I don't really have a horse in this race one way or the other but that seems obvious.
Days Gone, Death Stranding (was), along with a lot of Sonys other games, especially this generation, like Rift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon’s Souls, Returnal, etc. the latter of which just barely sold over a million copies.

I could name a dozen more Sony first party games that could have used this method of ‘fudging’ to make the IP’s a lot bigger than they ‘should be’. This is a sales forum, I’m trying to find the logic in this narrative.

If we’re just using the idea that a spinoff lego game or VR game for Horizon proves that the IP isn’t as big as the numbers dictate we’d have to judge every spinoff mario game the same way
 
You don’t sell tens of millions of games just from bundles and discounts or every first party game would do that.

An IP can be valuable but that doesn’t mean it’s going to translate into any random spinoff game and be successful.

As someone mentioned the horizon and Lego crowd are very different.
 
I think there is a difference between franchises with an innate universal appeal and popular games based on the games themselves. Compare something like Mario where the spinoffs all tend to do well, even bizarre concepts like a Rabbids cross-over tactics game. Then look at something like Minecraft where despite selling hundreds of millions of copies none of the spinoffs have done much of anything. Minecraft is a popular game primarily for its sandbox gameplay, so when that is absent, most consumers don't care. As for Horizon while its two spinoffs haven't been super successful a VR game and a Lego game aren't exactly the best tests for its broader appeal. We'll have to wait for that multiplayer game and MMO to have a clearer picture of whether Horizon has appeal beyond its open-world games.
 
You don’t sell tens of millions of games just from bundles and discounts or every first party game would do that.

An IP can be valuable but that doesn’t mean it’s going to translate into any random spinoff game and be successful.

As someone mentioned the horizon and Lego crowd are very different.

It seems like it worked well as a toy collaboration but not so much as a gaming collaboration. It also doesn’t look like an expensive project so I’m not even sure why there’s so much discussion around it.
 
Lego approached Sony and not the other way around to develop an Horizon LEGO game.

They saw potential in it, too bad (or not), that the sales told a different story.
 
If we’re just using the idea that a spinoff lego game or VR game for Horizon proves that the IP isn’t as big as the numbers dictate we’d have to judge every spinoff mario game the same way
I get what you're saying but this is a terrible comparison to make for it. A Mario spinoff (Kart) now outsells the mainline games. Hell Mario started off as a spinoff and is significantly more popular than the series that spawned it (DK).

For why Horizon spinoffs haven't done well, I think it's more than fair to say Call is hampered by it's unpopular platform to say the least. With Lego I would say what was really appealing about Horizon (world, creatures, game design) didn't translate well enough. I think this is probably also why the various Aloy crossovers (Genshin, Fortnite, MHW) have generally fallen flatter, Aloy herself and the characters in the games generally aren't really what draws people to Horizon (though I like Aloy). I feel like this is probably where a lot of the confusion and disconnect with the franchise popularity and reach stems from.
 
Horizon games sold a hojillion copies, I don't think we can pretend those games and that world aren't popular

The problem is that so much of the games' identities are tied up in their storytelling, their genre, and their combat

LEGO Horizon has none of those things! The tone, the genre, and the combat are all completely different, so the characters feel totally different too, and Horizon is a lot more adult-oriented than something like Star Wars. Kids love Star Wars! I'm sure some kids love Horizon too, but I'd be welling to bet good money that Aloy's adventures skew more adult-appealing than the Skywalkers'
 
I also belief they did this collaboration the wrong way. First release the Lego sets, than kids could potentially ask for the game. Though when the sets release next year the game should be cheaper.
 
If Nintendo wanted to release another revision it woud have already happened, Switch 2 will get the entire focus at hardware with OLED and Lite promoted as cheaper systems for catalogue sales.
The New 2DS XL was announced in April 2017, after the Switch launched.


Release was in July 2017.
 
For comparison sake, I would expect "LEGO Witcher" or "LEGO Elder Scrolls" to be similarly unimpressive compared to The Skywalker Saga
 
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A little off topic, but maybe someone knows how much did the 3DS sold globally since the Switch launched and before it got discontinued.
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I think LEGO Witcher would do pretty well, it's a legitimate cross-media franchise now.
OK, I'll admit that I would buy LEGO Witcher if it kept the books (or at least CDPR's games') sense of humour, only sanitized for kids, and had a similar quest structure. That could be a lot of fun

But without that I think it'd still do pretty badly compared to more kid-appealing franchises, and Elder Scrolls is like twice that size and would probably faceplant even worse
 
OK, I'll admit that I would buy LEGO Witcher if it kept the books (or at least CDPR's games') sense of humour, only sanitized for kids, and had a similar quest structure. That could be a lot of fun

But without that I think it'd still do pretty badly compared to more kid-appealing franchises, and Elder Scrolls is like twice that size and would probably faceplant even worse
Kids watch the Netflix show, I think it'd actually be pretty easy to adapt.

Elder Scrolls I agree, it'd fall apart outside the core game design just like Horizon.

I feel like Aloy is actually quite popular. I think Lego Horizon not being very good is a big part of the equation along with some audience mismatch.
Price is a big issue too imo.
 
I think what baffles me the most about Lego Horizon is just how low it's sales have to be. Even if there is some "bundle fudging," Launch week HFW sold 90k units physical in Japan per Famitsu. The Lego game really couldn't scrape together 1k units for a single platform on launch? of all the people that bought HFW on launch, not even 2% were willing to do the same for the Lego game? The game even had a spot in a Nintendo Direct. I can get that Horizon and Lego might not have the best audience overlap, but the extent of which really surprised me.
 
Nintendo came from a not that successful gen with Wii U and 3ds and I assume the 2DS XL was planned since 2016 at the least. I'm not that convince if we can use that for a Switch re-revision discussion.
 
If Nintendo wanted to release another revision it woud have already happened, Switch 2 will get the entire focus at hardware with OLED and Lite promoted as cheaper systems for catalogue sales.

OLED would need a price drop or a permanent bundled game to be attractive at probably only $50 less than Switch 2.

Also I'm not sure they'd want to the keep the OLED around when the new model is LCD only.
 
I just don't think everything works Legoized.

Case in Point, Lego City Undercover is maybe the best GTA clone ever made, but it didn't sell well on the Wii U nor did it achieve cult status when it went elsewhere.
Whoa, whoa

Better than Sleeping Dogs???
 
I just don't think everything works Legoized.

Case in Point, Lego City Undercover is maybe the best GTA clone ever made, but it didn't sell well on the Wii U nor did it achieve cult status when it went elsewhere.
LCU did 18k it's first week in Japan and over 100k it's first NPD. There's a difference between not really taking off and completely crating like we're seeing for LH under every metric so far.
 
I just don't think everything works Legoized.

Case in Point, Lego City Undercover is maybe the best GTA clone ever made, but it didn't sell well on the Wii U nor did it achieve cult status when it went elsewhere.
LCU did 18k it's first week in Japan and over 100k it's first NPD. There's a difference between not really taking off and completely crating like we're seeing for LH under every metric so far.
Apparently the Wii U version sold over a million with the 3DS version doing 2 million worldwide. That's pretty damn good for a Wii U and 3DS exclusive that's a generic LEGO brand game without something like Star Wars or Marvel to sell with.
 
More good news for smaller releases, well, kinda. The physical release of Wizardry: The Five Ordeals has been delayed to February 27th and the reason is the big amount of preorders they got, which made it impossible to produce enough materials for the original release date. They focus on the Special Editions, so all the extras is probably what they couldn't get in time. BTW, just as a reminder, this being a really small release, "more than expected preorders" is probably only a couple of thousands if not only some extra dozens, but is still good news for them.



『ウィザードリィ外伝 五つの試練』Nintendo Switchパッケージ版の発売日が2025年2月27日に延期。

想定を大きく上回る予約があったために、必要部材の確保が間に合わず製造スケジュールの変更を余儀なくされたため。ダウンロード版は予定通り2025年1月30日に発売。

DeepL:
The release date for the Nintendo Switch package version of “Wizardry Gaiden: The Five Trials” has been postponed to February 27, 2025.

This is due to the fact that the production schedule had to be changed due to the large number of pre-orders that exceeded expectations, and the necessary materials could not be secured in time. The downloadable version will be released on January 30, 2025 as planned.
 
I mean the truth is people care about Horizon as AAA single player IP that Sony is known for - this works for a lot of games as long as enough resources are invested.
The Lego performance is a good temperature check about the strength of the IP outside of the AAA format, right now.
Most popular model isn't discontinued first, it's simple math and logic. Nintendo won't invest on further revisions but also won't kill future Switch hardware sales for no reason.
OLED is selling because its the best Switch you can get for money right now. That wont be the case anymore once Switch 2 is on the market.
I dont think Nintendo is interested in dropping the OLED price, nor would they want people to get a Switch OLED instead of the Switch 2 if they are within 100 USD from each other.

Cant see the OLED sticking around personally, even though Nintendo obviously could make it work.
 
Square should asked Sony to bundle Final Fantasy XVI, it would sell 23M just because of that.

Do you want to damage the brand even more?

And besides we all know if the games were called Horizon Zero Dusk and Horizon Forbidden East it would of never sold more than 30mil copies
 
Do you want to damage the brand even more?

And besides we all know if the games were called Horizon Zero Dusk and Horizon Forbidden East it would of never sold more than 30mil copies
Why giving the game in bundles would damage the franchise?

I dont get T-Bone lol
 
OLED would need a price drop or a permanent bundled game to be attractive at probably only $50 less than Switch 2.

Also I'm not sure they'd want to the keep the OLED around when the new model is LCD only.
Switch 2 won't be only $50 more expensive than OLED and if Nintendo wants to kill Switch hardware sales immediately it will happen by ceasing production of all models. From the momen this is unlikely to happen they'll keep active what sells more and not less.
 
Hey guys, please head to the Horizon if you wish to discuss LEGO Horizon in the 1st Party output strategy | Discussion thread. Nintendo Switch hardware plans after the (unannounced launch) of Switch 2? Lots of threads about. As for LEGO talk...but why.gif It appears that Lies of P dev. are skipping not-Elden Ring & making Sci-Fi not-FROM Sci-Fi Souls survival horror.
Takara Tomy has just released the best controller accessory after Bamco's fake fishing rod (it's for Jinsei Game):

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thanks for reminding me that I should be upset that there hasn't been more silly Joycon controllers. if this was the GCN/Wii generation, we'd see a bunch of crazy shit to attach to joycon. how would Guitar Hero/Rock Band work with the joycon? I don't know, but it would have been fun to see
One area Nintendo can improve upon with Switch 2. Rather than having a trio of LABO titles before giving up, is to coordinate any new accessories with developers/publishers to ensure a regular supply of first & third party games to fully support. As for international publishers like Activision-Blizzard Microsoft being game to revive...games? Great idea. No idea if happening.

To give an example, Nintendo coordinates with BANDAI NAMCO & SEGA to make a Mario & Luigi Fishing Game with official peripheral to accompany new Ace Angler & SEGA Bass Fishing.
Famitsu Sales: Week 47, 2024 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)
05./00. [NSW] Disney Music Parade: Encore <ACT> (Imagineer) {2024.11.21} (¥5.980) - 9.260 / NEW <20-40%>
First Shipment Estimates: 23.150 - 46.300
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Child of Eden: Disney Music Parade Edition...I did not know this was a psychedelic trippy ass thing but I'm now ok with it. But as per last week, baffled its not a worldwide holiday launch.
07./00. [NSW] Stray # <ADV> (Happinet) {2024.11.19} (¥4.000) - 7.779 / NEW <40-60%>
First Shipment Estimates: 12.965 - 19.448
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Switch owners x Cat Lovers Multi-Unite!​
Not a bad performance for a game mainly exisiting in the digital ecosystem.
Double dipping is a normal, instinctive feline behaviour and shouldn't be punished.
09./00. [NSW] Marvel Vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics <X-Men: Children of the Atom \ X-Men Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Super Heroes \ Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes \ Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 \ The Punisher> <FTG> (Capcom) {2024.11.22} (¥5.990) - 5.749 / NEW <20-40%>
First Shipment Estimates: 14.373 - 28.745
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Dr. Doom Bossing It on Switch + Dr. Doom Approved First Shipment.​
18./00. [NSW] SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos <FTG> (SNK) {2024.11.21} (¥3.600) - 2.992 / NEW <40-60%>
19./00. [PS4] Marvel Vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics <X-Men: Children of the Atom \ X-Men Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Super Heroes \ Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter \ Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes \ Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 \ The Punisher> <FTG> (Capcom) {2024.11.22} (¥5.990) - 2.989 / NEW <40-60%>
First Shipment Estimates: [NSW] 4.987 - 7.480 // [PS4] 4.982 - 7.473
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SNK superior. CAPCOM crushed...on PS4 itstillcounts.gif On a general point, love them both coming out at the same time, but no idea why this is the late retail version week in general. Hell, I don't like this approach of putting out retail versions months afterwards, especially when there's nothing special included (unless its a post-launch DLC/patch edition on cart/disc). StopItGetHelp.gif
 
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Switch 2 won't be only $50 more expensive than OLED and if Nintendo wants to kill Switch hardware sales immediately it will happen by ceasing production of all models. From the momen this is unlikely to happen they'll keep active what sells more and not less.
You are anticipating a Switch 2 launching at 450$ or more?

I believe 400$ is the sweet spot Nintendo would try to target, even if they can always offer a more expensive model with more storage for instance.
 
Because those aren't first party titles and can't just make bundles happen on a whim? I mean I don't really have a horse in this race one way or the other but that seems obvious.
Horizon Zero Dawn was the most bundle 1st party game for mandatory PS4 3 free games in 1 holiday bundle $199 during 2018 - 2020.

According to the recent leak, as November 2019 in NA, bundle sales made up 37%(2.57m) of total HZD software sold in that region which is really significant.
 
Horizon Zero Dawn was the most bundle 1st party game for mandatory PS4 3 free games in 1 holiday bundle $199 during 2018 - 2020.

According to the recent leak, as November 2019 in NA, bundle sales made up 37%(2.57m) of total HZD software sold in that region which is really significant.
I just want to point to this discussion, that the point was not that Horizon Zero Down was not succesful, It was, it just not that big of an IP, yet, to say that It has any impact outside of the normal PS user. That based on how good the sales have been on Pc, or the different Aloy Cameos (Is Aloy that popular? I can't even remember her design, and I was interested at that time on the game). And you are right bundles have an impact, I just want to point that usually are not that game sold because of bundles, but bundles help games to reach higher numbers.
 
switch 2 will be at least +$100 more than switch oled.
Even that won be enough, dont see many buying a OLED if you cant get the Switch 2 for hundred more.

Switch Lite and OG Switch seem to be more fitting for entry level devices that are far away price wise from Switch 2.

Lite 150, OG Switch 250 and Switch 400.
OLED is gonna get sacrificed with shipments stopping and pushing that customer towards a Switch 2 purchase.


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You are anticipating a Switch 2 launching at 450$ or more?

I believe 400$ is the sweet spot Nintendo would try to target, even if they can always offer a more expensive model with more storage for instance.
The days of cheap consoles are gone and from the moment Nintendo won't be able to offer a cheaper SKU close to launch that means zero cross-gen releases for big internal games and some years until the first next gen Pokemon.
 
The days of cheap consoles are gone and from the moment Nintendo won't be able to offer a cheaper SKU close to launch that means zero cross-gen releases for big internal games and some years until the first next gen Pokemon.
$500 can work well in the USA but in Europe if it's 500€ then it will faced same issue as PS5 currently.
 
You are anticipating a Switch 2 launching at 450$ or more?

I believe 400$ is the sweet spot Nintendo would try to target, even if they can always offer a more expensive model with more storage for instance.
Kinda agreeing with Chris there. Nintendo has absolutely the cards to play with higher price point. Hell they are kinda forced with the competitions much higher price points and less competing products, everyone wanting their games to cost at least 70. The weakening currencies especially the yen, and Trump happily raising costs which still will affect others like europe because companies love to translate 1:1 dollar with euro prices.

So with zero competition in the 400 range and the most sucessful system in the 300+ range still on the market. They could absolutely sail the first 1-2 years before making a N20XX Lite when Switches lifespan ends to cover the sweet 400 spot. Enthusiasts and scalpers are anyway the ones buying at launch.
 
$500 can work well in the USA but in Europe if it's 500€ then it will faced same issue as PS5 currently.

A $500 Switch 2 would be DOA. That's the same price as the disc PS5 and Xbox Series X and significantly more than the Series S. Even worse in other regions. We just saw recently how PS5 sales nosedived in Japan when it went up to 80,000 Yen.

If that's the plan Nintendo have lost the plot.

EDIT: Forgot to add that would be significantly higher than the Steam Deck when performance is meant to be in the same ballpark.
 
Horizon Zero Dawn was the most bundle 1st party game for mandatory PS4 3 free games in 1 holiday bundle $199 during 2018 - 2020.

According to the recent leak, as November 2019 in NA, bundle sales made up 37%(2.57m) of total HZD software sold in that region which is really significant.

If the entire series sold 10 million less units it would still be a major success, the bundles conversation really doesn’t factor into anything.

Most popular AAA games still don’t sell 20 million copies between two games
 
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