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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2023 (Mar 06 - Mar 12)

Tokuiten

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Steam Deck is coming to some retail stores in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea, through the reseller Komodo and Acer Gaming. Komodo was already the company used by Valve to be able to order your Deck online in those regions.

No details about where in Japan this will drop and it will probably be a small affair, but still it's pretty cool. Famitsu tracking when?
That's really cool and I hope it can actually make somewhat of a splash, if only to urge Nintendo with Switch 2 a little ;>
 
Steam Deck is coming to some retail stores in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea, through the reseller Komodo and Acer Gaming. Komodo was already the company used by Valve to be able to order your Deck online in those regions.

No details about where in Japan this will drop and it will probably be a small affair, but still it's pretty cool. Famitsu tracking when?

If they can track 97 3DSs I don't see why they can't track Steamdeck and PSVR2 while they're at it.
 

NediarPT88

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There's no need to imagine a dozen scenarios, 90k was never going to be a baseline for PS5, there was pentup demand and it was going to be satisfied at some point with the shipments Japan got recently.

The question was, and still is, what will be the baseline it'll drop to and it could be anywhere between 10-60k (although history & software sales is pointing towards a narrower range way below 60k)

It will be interesting to see what kind of boost it will get in the coming weeks with notable software (RE4R) and notable exclusive (FFXVI)

Pretty much.

When demand is met I'm expecting PS5 to be in the 20s-30s k range, with some boosts whenever popular games get released.
 

Martin

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Wow, I didn't expect to still see OT2 in the charts and I am really glad it is still charting!

But why did Fatal Frame 4 remake/port chart so much lower than 5 port? Fells like that everyone online says that 5 is the worst in the series.

PS5 numbers are kind of low... but we will how much RE4 will bump the numbers and for how long.
 

KillerMan

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Pretty much.

When demand is met I'm expecting PS5 to be in the 20s-30s k range, with some boosts whenever popular games get released.
Just going by sw performance it should go under 10k weekly. Hard to predict because so far sw sales have not matched hw sales at all so does that continue or not is the question.
 

Aostia82

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If they can track 97 3DSs I don't see why they can't track Steamdeck and PSVR2 while they're at it.

PSVR2 sold less rhan 97 units, that's it!!!!!11!!1

/jk

Wow, I didn't expect to still see OT2 in the charts and I am really glad it is still charting!

But why did Fatal Frame 4 remake/port chart so much lower than 5 port? Fells like that everyone online says that 5 is the worst in the series.

Maybe 5th was help back more, being Wii U exclusive, while 4th episode has already been played by many in Japan (unlike the West where it was not distributed)?

But no data here to back up this opinion/theory
 

Astrogamer

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Wow, I didn't expect to still see OT2 in the charts and I am really glad it is still charting!

But why did Fatal Frame 4 remake/port chart so much lower than 5 port? Fells like that everyone online says that 5 is the worst in the series.

PS5 numbers are kind of low... but we will how much RE4 will bump the numbers and for how long.
FF4 isn't viewed much better. Also likely that people mostly got their fill from 5 and aren't willing to spend full price on a middling entry. I'd guess it's aiming for the Western market for the people who haven't played yet as otherwise, I'd go for FF2 as it's the one that most people praise.
 

demi

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I don't believe so, but the software situation was dire before the new tiers were introduced and it doesn't seem to have had a negative software impact on any other market, so I don't think it works as an explanation for the present software sales.
it's not the only explanation of course, but one of many factors that add up. i mean, the reality is that you can buy a ps5 and have plenty of options to play games without having to buy them at retail and i just feel that the question "but what are ps5 owners even playing" is disingenous at this point. it could be any combination of retail games, digital full price games, digital games bought on (very frequent) sale, f2p, back compat or ps+ freebies.

now, of course retail sales shrinking is not great and has its set of consequences, but the more time passes the less i see the top 30 retail sales as a true reflection of actual player behavior.
 
it's not the only explanation of course, but one of many factors that add up. i mean, the reality is that you can buy a ps5 and have plenty of options to play games without having to buy them at retail and i just feel that the question "but what are ps5 owners even playing" is disingenous at this point. it could be any combination of retail games, digital full price games, digital games bought on (very frequent) sale, f2p, back compat or ps+ freebies.

now, of course retail sales shrinking is not great and has its set of consequences, but the more time passes the less i see the top 30 retail sales as a true reflection of actual player behavior.
But most of those explanations are true of the Switch + Switch owners, too, yet Switch SW sales are beyond healthy...
 

demi

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But most of those explanations are true of the Switch + Switch owners, too, yet Switch SW sales are beyond healthy...
switch does not have

- a subscription service for modern games (ps+ extra)
- monthly free games (ps+ essential)
- 20 free games for every ps5 buyer (ps+ collection)
- the ability to play backwards compatible titles at a much better quality than on the previous console
- big, frequent & significant sales on the online shop for popular games (especially not on first party titles)

also, switch titles bought at retail have the huge benefit of not using the (small) system memory. the console is also significantly cheaper than the ps5. when dropping money on a fairly expensive console + subscription service already gives you access to a lot of titles to play there might be some customers who are going to skip a full priced retail game for the time being.
 
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it's not the only explanation of course, but one of many factors that add up. i mean, the reality is that you can buy a ps5 and have plenty of options to play games without having to buy them at retail and i just feel that the question "but what are ps5 owners even playing" is disingenous at this point. it could be any combination of retail games, digital full price games, digital games bought on (very frequent) sale, f2p, back compat or ps+ freebies.

now, of course retail sales shrinking is not great and has its set of consequences, but the more time passes the less i see the top 30 retail sales as a true reflection of actual player behavior.
It's certainly a possible factor to consider and probably is contributing something to the decline of physical software sales for PlayStation, but I don't see a reason to believe that this would uniquely impact the Japanese market to the degree that we are currently. Game sales on PS5, even just physical games, are not seeing this decline in any other market which have the exact same factors in place.
 

Aostia82

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switch does not have

- a subscription service for modern games (ps+ extra)
- monthly free games (ps+ essential)
- 20 free games for every ps5 buyer (ps+ collection)
- the ability to play backwards compatible titles at a much better quality than on the previous console
- big, frequent & significant sales on the online shop for popular games (especially not on first party titles)

also, switch titles bought at retail have the huge benefit of not using the (small) system memory. the console is also significantly cheaper than the ps5. when dropping money on a fairly expensive console + subscription service already gives you access to a lot of titles to play there might be some customers who are going to skip a full priced retail game for the time being.


Speaking about Japan, we have actual data pointing out at digital ratio for some first party nintendo games (due to voucher) even higher than PS5 games (like Astral Chain Vs Resident Evil 8) and pointing out at decreasing performance for ps4 software (retail and digital) going against the "play ps4 games on ps5 hardware" notion


So speaking about Japan only the f2p + scalpers factors seem possible explanations, aside the "non-japan-centric" software offer on PS5 that everybody agrees upon
 
switch does not have

- a subscription service for modern games (ps+ extra)
- monthly free games (ps+ essential)
- 20 free games for every ps5 buyer (ps+ collection)
- the ability to play backwards compatible titles at a much better quality than on the previous console
- big, frequent & significant sales on the online shop for popular games (especially not on first party titles)
None of these preclude PS from having a healthy software ecosystem. None of these really explain why software continues to be abysmal both on the PS4 & 5. If this is the explanation people are going with then it paints an even dire picture.
 

aktoner

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Very impressive ps5 sales again keeping it at the top for another week. I wonder how long it can stay over 50k.

It's another month until the star wars game launches and 3 until final fantasy.
 

J-Cat

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switch does not have

- a subscription service for modern games (ps+ extra)
- monthly free games (ps+ essential)
- 20 free games for every ps5 buyer (ps+ collection)
- the ability to play backwards compatible titles at a much better quality than on the previous console
- big, frequent & significant sales on the online shop for popular games (especially not on first party titles)

also, switch titles bought at retail have the huge benefit of not using the (small) system memory. the console is also significantly cheaper than the ps5. when dropping money on a fairly expensive console + subscription service already gives you access to a lot of titles to play there might be some customers who are going to skip a full priced retail game for the time being.

All of those things are available worldwide and are not peculiar to Japan.
PS4 new software sales are decreasing, and the used PS4 market is not increasing.
The abysmal software sales also predate the new PS+ tiers.
Very impressive ps5 sales again keeping it at the top for another week. I wonder how long it can stay over 50k.

It's another month until the star wars game launches and 3 until final fantasy.

Stars Wars Jedi The Fallen Order sold 26.7k first week in Japan so I wouldn't look at Survivor to make a splash.
 

MarcoP90

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The hell is taking Famitsu so long with the Top 30?

Unless it was a mistype on Famitsu's end, on Monday I assume


※11位より下の数値は、ファミ通.com内“ゲーム販売本数ランキングページ”にて2023年3月20日以降に公開予定です。

Figures below 11th place will be available on the "Game Sales Ranking" page on Famitsu.com after March 20, 2023. (translation via DeepL)

EDIT: Yeah, I randomly decided to re-check the Top 10 report to see if there was anything different than usual given the lack of the Top 30 yet.
 

brutaka3

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Unless it was a mistype on Famitsu's end, on Monday I assume




EDIT: Yeah, I randomly decided to re-check the Top 10 report to see if there was anything different than usual given the lack of the Top 30 yet.
Wait until Monday? You can't do this to me...

Meanwhile, on other news:

- The latest Neptunia will be announced soon. I think "this may finally be the one that gets a Switch version", but I really doubt it.




- A Persona 5 mobile game by Perfect World Games (Chinese dev) was announced. They really refuse to let it die.

 

Nokia

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Multiple Neptunia games are on Switch already, I assume you mean a same day release as other platforms.
And a Persona gacha isn't unexpected considering SMT has one, but I'm committed to never playing any other gachas except Master Duel for the rest of my life.
 

brutaka3

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Multiple Neptunia games are on Switch already, I assume you mean a same day release as other platforms.
And a Persona gacha isn't unexpected considering SMT has one, but I'm committed to never playing any other gachas except Master Duel for the rest of my life.
Oh yeah, I mean same day release. And as far as I remember, the only mainline one on Switch is Neptunia VII.

EDIT:
The Persona 5 game looks huge effort but apparently is not even releasing in Japan, only China.
 

AruanaRiva

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switch does not have

- a subscription service for modern games (ps+ extra)
- monthly free games (ps+ essential)
- 20 free games for every ps5 buyer (ps+ collection)
- the ability to play backwards compatible titles at a much better quality than on the previous console
- big, frequent & significant sales on the online shop for popular games (especially not on first party titles)

also, switch titles bought at retail have the huge benefit of not using the (small) system memory. the console is also significantly cheaper than the ps5. when dropping money on a fairly expensive console + subscription service already gives you access to a lot of titles to play there might be some customers who are going to skip a full priced retail game for the time being.

Switch has vouchers that actually hurt the sales potential of big nintendo first party retail sales and we actually had data on them.

Eshop got significant sales on most of its popular third party title.(Literally currently running. Cheap Capcom, SE and Ubisoft game) Voucher is already significant discount on first party titles so it means nintendo first party title is always available on heavy discount.

NSO brought free games that target nostalgia and even added online play for those game which means it is competing with current brand new title that nintendo is releasing.

If just those thing above lead to very weak software performance for PS5 in japan. That means there is a very heavy shift for the system purchase ecosystem and it paint far bleaker picture for PS5 software selling power in Japan.
 



One last update before Ryza 3. Wonder how that one's gonna do, I will be honest my jaw kinda dropped when they showed gameplay for it and how open world it is. It even had the NA Direct reveal, when they revealed Ryza 2 on a Direct it was JP Direct only.
 
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On the topic of Persona 5's mobile game. You would think after the success of games like Gennshin Impact and Fortnite, massively budget AAA games that are on both mobile and console. Something like Persona's mobile game carrying the visual quality of a mainline game, would be on console as well.
 

Lite_Agent

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Ib (Limited Edition) is getting a new shipment. Reservations now live for this second shipment, which is expected to arrive in June.



No word on regular edition, but I assume it won't take nearly as long for new copies to hit shelves.
 

cw_sasuke

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On the topic of Persona 5's mobile game. You would think after the success of games like Gennshin Impact and Fortnite, massively budget AAA games that are on both mobile and console. Something like Persona's mobile game carrying the visual quality of a mainline game, would be on console as well.
They already have enough console Persona games lined up and just released a bunch of classics from th series across all systems.

Also you listed one success story while failing the dozens of mobile and service games that fail and shut down every week. You don't just casually develop something like Genshin unless it's the bread and butter if your company and there is a lot of experience with this type of game.
 
Wasn't answered in the last thread which is locked, but does anyone know if we got updates on PS VR 2 sales in Japan or possibly the Call mountain bundle? Including in todays report?
I did answer you 😉
We only got the amount of Horizon bundle sold:

16./00. [PS5] Horizon Call of the Mountain |PlayStation VR2| - PlayStation VR2 Horizon Call of the Mountain Bundle <RPG> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2023.02.22} (¥72.709) - 6.027 / NEW <80-100%>

We could maybe extrapolate something using the Spanish ratio (only country where we have full hardware data on PSVR2) but it could be misleading.
 
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Wait until Monday? You can't do this to me...

Meanwhile, on other news:

- The latest Neptunia will be announced soon. I think "this may finally be the one that gets a Switch version", but I really doubt it.



I really hope that Tsunako handles the art for this game, Neptunia seems to sell worse when other artists are in charge.
 

D.Lo

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Bit early to call, even at this baseline it will sell 3.4 million this year, more than the Wii which had third-party attach rate even worse than the Switch.
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Herb Alpert

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Bit early to call, even at this baseline it will sell 3.4 million this year, more than the Wii which had third-party attach rate even worse than the Switch.

This isn't the baseline, just wait a bit for the dust to settle, it is some kind of normalization of the offer after a huge shortage, sales from early platform life have been moved in time.
PS5 won't go down to 4 digits again but it won't stay at these current heights.
 

gibordep

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I am with the fell that we all will be short on RE4 prediction.
The game is with 93 metascore, globalily is no doubt that will do great number in Japan if I could review my prediction I would go all in with a 200K+
 
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