Media Create Sales: CY 2023 (2023 Jan 02 - 2023 Dec 31) [new+used]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

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[Chris1964]

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[Tokuiten]

Finally

Thx for the new data! I'm about to go to bed, but now I know what I'll do tomorrow, update my yearly graphs

Edit: Ugh, I forgot that I don't have my files on the laptop here ... will have to wait circa 4 weeks when I'm home again -_-

 

[Chris1964]

 

[tobinator]

Are the Full Member sections gonna be made available to registered users eventually? It's kind of heartbreaking to have waited a year to see these numbers and then run into this. Based on my activity, it will literally take years to get 100 likes.

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Maluigi]

So glad to see so many evergreens for the Switch and even for the old PS4!

 

[J-Cat]

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Holy moly, there are even data for Amiibo and PSVR 2?
How does PSVR2 launch compare to PSVR1? (I can't seem to find it)
Also I don't suppose there is any data on the PS Portal?

 

[StardustTraveler]

So Final Fantasy 16 ended up making the top 10 after all. Still, that's a big decline from FFXV.

 

[Chris1964]

There's still complete darkness for second half's of the year first party games on Switch but assuming Famitsu's predictions weren't made out of thin air these are my expectations for 2023.

- Drop at Nintendo's software sales but share remaining over 80%.
- Slight increase for PlayStation software sales but remaining at historically low level for Sony in Japan.
- Around 600 games in top 1000 will be for Switch.

Copy-paste for 2024

 

[Vena]

Are the Full Member sections gonna be made available to registered users eventually? It's kind of heartbreaking to have waited a year to see these numbers and then run into this. Based on my activity, it will literally take years to get 100 likes.

We'll look into it, toss this into community suggestions.

 

[MysticGon]

The PS4 still doing good business for a product in it's 10th year.

Since you can't quote or I assume repost data you have to talk in riddles like a NPD analyst so I'll just say the PS4 software business must be a thing of wonder.

It is...

• Probably aided by PS5 BC
• Equally lucrative for new+used
• The last bastion of the PlayStation evergreen
• Recreating the 'found it's audience later' effect
• Only part of the story since there's no digital

I really wouldn't be surprised if the rumors of Sony making a handheld that can play PS4 software natively are true. It won't have a BD drive but if they can find a way to give physical media owners a way to access their games digitally in a way that can't be exploited it could dovetail beautifully with future home console backwards compatibility.

 

[sfortunato]

Wow, Densha De Go on Switch is getting close to 100k! Very nice result, perhaps one of the best result since PS2.

 

[Chris1964]

One Piece sales on Switch show why a studio tries a late port of Odyssey.

Also I don't suppose there is any data on the PS Portal?

There isn't.

 

[IronTed]

Until/unless said otherwise I'll keep the quotes/etc in the full member hide tags, but given this

Like previous year it won't be visible to not installbase members.
Junior members will have from this year access only to what Famitsu also provides, software top 100 + hardware
Whoever wants to share something specific outside this forum, except the two known places, can do it as long as there isn't extended copy-paste.

I assume this means it's fine to quote specific parts of the OP without hide tags in this thread/the forum at large provided we don't just paste the entire thing?

 

[Marno]

In the end Octopath Traveler II, even if it might be under SE expectation, seems to have performed quite well in Japan.

Are the Full Member sections gonna be made available to registered users eventually? It's kind of heartbreaking to have waited a year to see these numbers and then run into this. Based on my activity, it will literally take years to get 100 likes.

The more the data gets public the more likely Media Create will stop sharing any data. Not sure what solution there could be for us that are more lurker, besides going out of our shell and ultimately getting to be full member ourself.

 

[Astral_lion02]

I am imprest by the fact that PS5 managed to be down YoY in South Korea.

Steam and Nintendo let no space for Sony there.

 

[Damage2]

So FFXVI sold 513k, must be at least 800k with digital included.

 

[awng782]

 

[Celine]

A favorite of mine to watch year after year (the definition of what 'good word of mouth' is):

CY2018: 211./000. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 17.855 / NEW (5.990 <77,74%>)
CY2019: 192./211. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 19.366 / 37.221 (+8%) (5.990 <77,74%>)
CY2020: 168./192. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 21.801 / 59.021 (+13%) (5.990 <77,74%>)
CY2021: 133./168. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 26.061 / 85.082 (+20%) (5.990 <77,74%>)
CY2022: 117./133. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 27.889 / 112.972 (+7%) (5.990 <77,74%>)
CY2023: 156./117. [NSW] Undertale # <RPG> (8-4) {2018.09.15} (¥4.000) - 19.046 / 132.018 (-32%) (5.990 <77,74%>)

 

[Chris1964]

1m for DQXIS on Switch in Japan without counting digital and nowhere close stopping must have exceeded even SE most optimistic scenario for a late port.

 

[awng782]

I am imprest by the fact that PS5 managed to be down YoY in South Korea.

Steam and Nintendo let no space for Sony there.

Must be the only region in the world where this has happened.

 

[Charamiwa]

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Maybe because they get their Switch in Japan now lol.

 

[awng782]

Maybe because they get their Switch in Japan now lol.

Entirely possible lol.

This may also explain why PS5 sales in South Korea declined slightly YoY.

 

[Celine]

Nintendo's first-party continues to own over 50% of the software marketshare at retail

 

[Mr.Adele]

What is a "full member" and how does one become it? Do we need to pay to see all of it?

 

[Celine]

NSW physical software sales has surpassed 3DS physical software sales during CY2023.
PS5 physical software sales had a notable increase during CY2023 (over 100% YoY) but still lags behind consoles with mediocre sales like PSV and WiiU.

 

[IronTed]

Surprised it's still PS4 > PS5 when it comes to number games in the top 1000. Regardless, another modern low for the number of PS games in the top 1000. On the plus side it seems PS5 + PS4 is up YoY and a bit over 2021.

Given that the initial shipment including digital was 50k, I wonder what are the chances it actually managed to outsell the original. Famitsu has it at 78k or so but I don't know what MC has it at.

Far cry from ASB's numbers. I've really enjoyed ASBR so hopefully Bamco releases another JoJo game soon.

With the amount of discussion they generated here, it's interesting to see MC and Famitsu diverge for SMBW amd FFXVI.

 

[Celine]

 

[MarcoP90]

 

[MegaXZero]

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[Joseki]

Persona 5 Royal (NSW) has surpassed Persona 5 (PS3)

P5R (NSW)

P5 (PS3)
LTD: 112,372 (according to NicheBarrier)

Next up would Persona 5 Royal (PS4) with pretty much double the sales so probably too far ahead to catch up.

P5R (PS4)
LTD: 244,050 (according to NicheBarrier)

 

[MarcoP90]

 

[KR_EP]

Fantastic work @Chris1964 - lots to mull over & lament (SUCCESS was robbed at the high seas by feline sales stealing pirates!). But as for the sales of FFXVI, while it did rise above the Rules of Nature, it didn't surpass Metal Gear the first rule of Fight Club doing big-business - don't talk about success, failure or superior doggo PC versions till you clear the opening week shipment!

We'll look into it, toss this into community suggestions.

More like toss it in the bin & tell filthy commoners lurkers to become active members of the BASED INSTALLBASE community! Right let's get straight to the most important sales news...

YoYoYo NJ Media Creators, my business acumen is unrivalled as your Top Shogi Boy brought it with an Xtra 5% - best selling Shogi GOTY from the Shogi GOAT!

PS4 version exits the Top 1000 but the Switch port is still galloping about its nature adventure business. Okami has been in the Top 1000 every year in some form or another since 2006. Time to get back to Sales Story Work! Lots to mull over & lament but for now, putting these here to refer back to at a later date. (LATE EDIT: Repetition & Reformatting)

Spoiler: Not so Cool Sales Story Bro

Considering fixing the early Output Strategy threads to make them easier to follow & part of that involves bringing in line with @Chris1964 new guidelines. Partly why I didn't include them for either the Bandai Namco or colopl OPs, well that & because it'll take MAGES. to compile them all! Depending on how music retail sales data each company has if/when I get around to it I'll either put them in full members tags, create new threads in the Archive sub-section or remove them entirely if @Chris1964 prefers. Used included to work out those all important CP2077 & Star Ocean 5 totals!

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[Tbone5189]

With MC FFXVI being X amount sold and more than what Famitsu said, it could be possible Rebirth decline from XVI is alot bigger "IF" MC is close to what Famitsu provided

Ex: FFXVI 700k-800k ship+digital vs Rebirth 500k-600k

 

[Chibi_robo]

So... What is a Full Member and how I manage to become one? I did read the rules's page but they just say about what a Full Member can do, but not how do become one.

 

[Crjunior35]

So... What is a Full Member and how I manage to become one? I did read the rules's page but they just say about what a Full Member can do, but not how do become one.

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[Kaworu]

I want to thank @Chris1964, as always, for the incredible job he does to make sure the data is available. Thank you to the forum for creating a place to share it safely too.

There are so many things to comment in this year's data, but I feel Sony is leaving a lot of money on the table not providing a proper version of the MLB game for the Japanese market. Ohtani is every single day on TV because of his performance in there, but there are many new players doing great like Imanaga, Yamamoto, etc. that would even broaden the appeal of it.

 

[Koti]

Wow thanks for this. I didn't know they shared used copy sales as well, that's news to me. Am I understanding correctly that there are over 2 million used copies sold for Smash Ultimate? In Japan alone too, if so, that's crazy! No wonder why so many companies are pushing the all digital future. No production cost, retailer cut, stock management, used copies, leaked copies. Digital is just so much better from a business perspective, we really gotta appreciate companies like Nintendo still pushing physical copies.

 

[Chibi_robo]

You have to earn 100 thanks. I'll give one to help you.

Wow! Thank you for the reply, and everyone for the likes, I really appreciate it!

 

[AruanaRiva]

Detective Pikachu with suprise big difference from Famitsu lol.O_O What happen there.

I do kinda agree with DP Switch sales on MC there... considering how many Jp copies now have arrived in Indonesia due to how cheap JP version is lol.