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Furukawa: Switch successor details to be unveiled by March 2025; Switch-only Direct airing this June

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This is Furukawa, President of Nintendo. We will make an announcement about the successor to Nintendo Switch within this fiscal year. It will have been over nine years since we announced the existence of Nintendo Switch back in March 2015. We will be holding a Nintendo Direct this June regarding the Nintendo Switch software lineup for the latter half of 2024, but please be aware that there will be no mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during that presentation.
 
Actually now I'm thinking that maybe they'll do the initial reveal at The Game Awards.
Highly unlikely, the Game Awards are not an important event for Nintendo and the nature of the Game Awards of being basically a high speed advertisement show is not a good place for such a reveal.

Nintendo will have its very own reveal video.
 
TGAs in Geoff's wildest dreams maybe. Nintendo won't be sharing airspace for the Switch 2 rollout and definitely not an event they barely participate in anymore.
 
Yeah, the most Geoff may get is a Bayonetta 4 teaser or something (provided the console has been revealed by then).
 
Yeah, the most Geoff may get is a Bayonetta 4 teaser or something (provided the console has been revealed by then).
I don't think they'll jump the gun with the announcement of Bayonetta 4 this time around given how long it took to make 3. That being said I think Astral Chain 2 should be at least a couple years into full development now given the last game Taura worked on was NieR Replicant. A more serious (possibly Open World?) Action game seems very fitting for TGA.
 
- Tokyo Game Show 2024
- special conference
- Ocarina of Time Reimagining revealed, crossgen
- launch title for Switch 2, same day with Switch 1-version
- showcases DLSS technology
- seamless open world, new exciting cutscenes elaborating the story and events, full voice-acting, general themes remain, but puzzles and everything is brand new, additional content (Temple of Light), more fleshed out characters, fleshed out sidequests that feel like a main story, graphics like the TP E3-demo
- Miyamoto on stage: 'This is the final game I will be directly involved with, afterwards I will retire and leave the company in the hands of the talented younger generation at Nintendo. Please look forward to a bright future!'
- Furukawa congratulates him on stage and officially calls the period from NES to Switch the 'Miyamoto Jidai'
- announces Switch 2 blowout for a January event
- launch date: March or May 2025
 
- Tokyo Game Show 2024
- special conference
- Ocarina of Time Reimagining revealed, crossgen
- launch title for Switch 2, same day with Switch 1-version
- showcases DLSS technology
- seamless open world, new exciting cutscenes elaborating the story and events, full voice-acting, general themes remain, but puzzles and everything is brand new, additional content (Temple of Light), more fleshed out characters, fleshed out sidequests that feel like a main story, graphics like the TP E3-demo
- Miyamoto on stage: 'This is the final game I will be directly involved with, afterwards I will retire and leave the company in the hands of the talented younger generation at Nintendo. Please look forward to a bright future!'
- Furukawa congratulates him on stage and officially calls the period from NES to Switch the 'Miyamoto Jidai'
- announces Switch 2 blowout for a January event
- launch date: March or May 2025

I see many problems:
Nintendo does not do public events at TGS
Nintendo doesn't make "reimagining" in FF7R style
Miyamoto isn't involved with Zelda anymore and why would he depart Nintendo when he's the man in charge of their multimedia expansion
There is no need for 2 in-person live events
 
I see no scenario where the Switch 2 releases later than Match, because I don't think Nintendo would mention it now if that was the case.
 
I see no scenario where the Switch 2 releases later than Match, because I don't think Nintendo would mention it now if that was the case.


is that the ACTUAL NAME OF THE CONSOLE? SCOOP on INSTALL BASE!!!

/jk

I agree with your idea, btw.
And, well..Nintendo Match is actually a cool name!
 
is that the ACTUAL NAME OF THE CONSOLE? SCOOP on INSTALL BASE!!!

/jk

I agree with your idea, btw.
And, well..Nintendo Match is actually a cool name!
lol, I didn't notice. But Match sounds better than Attatch at least, lol.
 
At the same time, if it was 100% sure it would launch this FY I imagine they would have mentioned it already.
Did they reveal the release window of the Switch in such a meating before we got the October reveal trailer?
 
Mochizuki is dooming about Switch 2:



machine translation: "Despite the announcement of the new model, Nintendo's stock price is falling. It is highly likely that the new model will be released after 2025, and it is judged that this fiscal year will be tough. Since Nintendo used the word "successor machine", investors are predicting a development similar to Wii → Wii U, rather than a generational change like Wii → Switch."

Why does investors think a Switch successor is destined to be a failure like Wii U? Regardless if you don't think Switch 2 will be able to hit the heights of Switch 1 do they really think Nintendo will go from selling 140 million Switch 1 units to 13 million Switch 2 units or something?
 
Infinite AND constant growth, that's what investors want. Can't beat capitalism baby.

Long term is not something they care because why would they, they just want to make money by selling at some point.
 
Mochizuki is dooming about Switch 2:



machine translation: "Despite the announcement of the new model, Nintendo's stock price is falling. It is highly likely that the new model will be released after 2025, and it is judged that this fiscal year will be tough. Since Nintendo used the word "successor machine", investors are predicting a development similar to Wii → Wii U, rather than a generational change like Wii → Switch."

Why does investors think a Switch successor is destined to be a failure like Wii U? Regardless if you don't think Switch 2 will be able to hit the heights of Switch 1 do they really think Nintendo will go from selling 140 million Switch 1 units to 13 million Switch 2 units or something?

I admit, the fact that Furukawa didn't simply say 'nextgen Switch' has me slightly worried. The wording he used could have applied to the OLED-Switch, too

Ofc, it's silly to think he doesn't mean Switch 2, but still. Could have worded it better.
 
Isn't PS3 to PS4 to PS5 just successor machines?

Granted, I'll give investors the benefit of the doubt since who knows what Nintendo might be working on and it's not been a constant hit after hit to have some kind of "safe bet" on what Nintendo will show, but i think it's fair to say that they won't be abandon this ship since it made them so much money.
 
Infinite AND constant growth, that's what investors want. Can't beat capitalism baby.

Long term is not something they care because why would they, they just want to make money by selling at some point.


Yup
good thing is: Nintendo board has always worked following its own strategies, with MAYBE the mobile venture being the only actual investment/pivot done ALSO/ESPECIALLY because of investors push
 
Funnily enough one of the answer in this Q&A posted above was exactly Furukawa saying that they see this FY as a transition period to achieve long term success, exactly what investors do not like to hear.
 
It's literally happened to Wii U. But that's a different story haha
Yeah but i think a key difference is that the Wii hype seemed totally dead when Wii U released. Switch still seems to have good momentum going for it.
 
Mochizuki is dooming about Switch 2:



machine translation: "Despite the announcement of the new model, Nintendo's stock price is falling. It is highly likely that the new model will be released after 2025, and it is judged that this fiscal year will be tough. Since Nintendo used the word "successor machine", investors are predicting a development similar to Wii → Wii U, rather than a generational change like Wii → Switch."

Why does investors think a Switch successor is destined to be a failure like Wii U? Regardless if you don't think Switch 2 will be able to hit the heights of Switch 1 do they really think Nintendo will go from selling 140 million Switch 1 units to 13 million Switch 2 units or something?

If someone expects a development similar to Wii to Wii U, they have to expect that Switch 2 will consist of two separate systems: A stationary home console and a handheld. Because the Wii U didn't ship with a motion controller and went a generation backwards, so the Switch equivalent is that the hybrid idea is being undone.
 
If someone expects a development similar to Wii to Wii U, they have to expect that Switch 2 will consist of two separate systems: A stationary home console and a handheld. Because the Wii U didn't ship with a motion controller and went a generation backwards, so the Switch equivalent is that the hybrid idea is being undone.


Listen to me

The "New model of the Switch line" (Furukawa cit.) will be a home-console only, you can control also with your Switch (OG) model for dual screen experiences
 
I don't have any kind of appreciation from Nintendo or Nintendo Games, but it's impossible to me to imagine a Switch 2 that isn't a success. All that Nintendo needs it's a more powerful switch with BC to the current model. Nintendo sometimes likes to change things, but this time it's a no brainer.
 
Yeah, all that Nintendo needs is to keep doing what they already doing. IMO any problem regarding third party support they have or had will solve itself, for better or worse lol.
 
I don't have any kind of appreciation from Nintendo or Nintendo Games, but it's impossible to me to imagine a Switch 2 that isn't a success. All that Nintendo needs it's a more powerful switch with BC to the current model. Nintendo sometimes likes to change things, but this time it's a no brainer.
I said the same thing when the time came for a DS successor and look where that landed us. I trust in 2024 Nintendo a lot, but I aint gonna start counting chickens before they hatch.
 
I think something like the dual screen patent handheld would be a great successor for the Switch, even if the concept is largely the same. It would add another layer of versatility to the already versatile Switch. I think this late in, a direct sequel to the Switch (just an upgraded Switch) would be less than ideal because the Switch isn't a new concept anymore. People will buy it but a decline from Switch will be a certainty. They need to add something exciting to keep the Switch 2 at a comparable sales level. A second screen controller could do the trick.

As for the direct, Metroid should be finally revealed in June for Switch as a big final release but if not I'm guessing the project is either having development problems or they are keeping it for the Switch 2 launch.
 
I think something like the dual screen patent handheld would be a great successor for the Switch, even if the concept is largely the same. It would add another layer of versatility to the already versatile Switch. I think this late in, a direct sequel to the Switch (just an upgraded Switch) would be less than ideal because the Switch isn't a new concept anymore. People will buy it but a decline from Switch will be a certainty. They need to add something exciting to keep the Switch 2 at a comparable sales level. A second screen controller could do the trick.
I'm not convinced a dual screen Switch is all that appealing, the concept has been done before by NDS/3DS/Wii U, and we saw with Wii U that shipping the 2nd screen (i.e. GamePad) will bump up the price of the entire console by a considerable amount. IMO a dual screen Switch would sell considerably worse than a "normal" Switch 2.
 
Not going to lie, personally, knowing the succ will be just a souped up Switch is a bit of a bummer, I love the Switch and the software it brought but it’s been a while since (before the Switch) everything started to feel samey, every experience, every platform, my love for gaming is fading and I wanted something quirky and exciting, maybe not dual screen as mentioned above necessarily but something that feels fresh and forces devs to think outside the box, third parties be damned. Hopefully Nintendo comes up with exciting software at least or maybe this feeling is just temporary (End rant).

When it comes to sales I’m sure it will be successful from the start, but by not being entirely new concept I’m sure the ceiling should be lower, let’s see.
 
- Tokyo Game Show 2024
- special conference
- Ocarina of Time Reimagining revealed, crossgen
- launch title for Switch 2, same day with Switch 1-version
- showcases DLSS technology
- seamless open world, new exciting cutscenes elaborating the story and events, full voice-acting, general themes remain, but puzzles and everything is brand new, additional content (Temple of Light), more fleshed out characters, fleshed out sidequests that feel like a main story, graphics like the TP E3-demo
- Miyamoto on stage: 'This is the final game I will be directly involved with, afterwards I will retire and leave the company in the hands of the talented younger generation at Nintendo. Please look forward to a bright future!'
- Furukawa congratulates him on stage and officially calls the period from NES to Switch the 'Miyamoto Jidai'
- announces Switch 2 blowout for a January event
- launch date: March or May 2025
I don't think we will see a 70 year old Miyamoto go back to the game development scene any time soon. He's now just doing fun stuff like hanging out with Hollywood moguls and actors and opening theme parks.
 
It's also not news that Gibson's translation of an investors call is misleading. Just a year ago he translated Furukawa as describing Nintendo's hardware goal of 15m as "a stretch". As if a CEO would call his own company's forecast in doubt in such a way.
And now in the official translation he called it exactly what it's called like in the tweet: "successor to Nintendo Switch".
I admit, the fact that Furukawa didn't simply say 'nextgen Switch' has me slightly worried. The wording he used could have applied to the OLED-Switch, too

Ofc, it's silly to think he doesn't mean Switch 2, but still. Could have worded it better.
How exactly could "successor to Nintendo Switch" apply to Switch OLED? There isn't any room for interpretation there.
 
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And now in the official translation he called it exactly what it's called like in the tweet: "successor to Nintendo Switch".

How exactly could "successor to Nintendo Switch" apply to Switch OLED? There isn't any room for interpretation there.
Yep, we gotta stop using David Gibson as an official source of translation.
 
And now in the official translation he called it exactly what it's called like in the tweet: "successor to Nintendo Switch".

How exactly could "successor to Nintendo Switch" apply to Switch OLED? There isn't any room for interpretation there.
Could you point me to the official translation? thanks in advance =)
 
I wanted something quirky and exciting

Nintendo won't stop experimenting with quirky stuff and crazy new concepts anytime soon, but that'll be in software and accessories space mostly, I think.

Like Nintendo Labo, Ring Fit Adventure, 1-2-Switch, etc.
 
Could you point me to the official translation? thanks in advance =)
There isn't one. Q&A is only available in Japanese as of writing. English should be available by the end of the week at the latest.

Japanese original is:

Nintendo Switch の後継機種については、現段階でこれ以上お話しできることはありません。本
日の発表に際しては、「Nintendo Switch の後継機種」という表現を用いることが最適だと判断し、
このような表現にしました

"後継機種" being the wording they used in the initial tweet:



Basically, that Q&A bit is a nothingburger as Furukawa explicitely says that what they announced in the tweet is all they're sharing about the console for now.
 
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The headline vastly oversells the response Furukawa gave. The question was about the stated switch hardware number forecast and if it included switch 2. The answer, based on google translate and their own quote, points to him referring to the absence of switch 2 in that particular number.

If it was the revenue and profit that would be one thing, but they can just later post the hardware they expect at a later date. Pretty irresponsible unless they have another quote I’m not seeing.
 
He said that year ago already that they want a smooth transition to next gen by utilizing Nintendo accounts.
I'm positive this was a key point for NX in the slides in several of the IR presentations back in 2015/2016 too.
 
We've know for a long time Nintendo is conservative in their forecasts. we've just witnessed them upping their yearly sales forecasts in Q4 for the Nth time this generation. Until Nintendo has 100% certainty that Switch 2 is hitting this fiscal year, they will not include it in their forecasts because it'd be risky, especially after it already slipped their initial release date. I don't think this confirms or debunks a possible Jan-Mar release.
 
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