No chance it hits 30 million next year. It’s legs are far too dead and the next gen patch is already out.I don’t find the sales poor for CP77. The game was always going to be super frontloaded compared to The Witcher
Speaking of which, great sales but its 10$ ever other week so at this point it’s an impulse buy for most.
I’m expecting CP77 to reach 25-30 millions by next year once the game hits 20$ on sale (it’s been 30 for a while, outside of some clearances here and there for PS4/Xbone versions physical copies)
The next gen patch just came out but just like The Witcher, the lion’s share of sales comes from PC and I’m expecting deeper discounts in the coming months. It has what it needs to achieve those sales since the game’s reputation was only really poor on consoles. The PC experience was fine.No chance it hits 30 million next year. It’s legs are far too dead and the next gen patch is already out.
The next gen patch just came out but just like The Witcher, the lion’s share of sales comes from PC and I’m expecting deeper discounts in the coming months. It has what it needs to achieve those sales since the game’s reputation was only really poor on consoles. The PC experience was fine.
Also The Witcher 3 sold 12 million copies between december 2019 and april 2022 (28 million copies sold by december 2019 as announced in march 2020) but 2021 saw the most sales out of that span.
They show similar first to second year declines and outside of the console space the game has has rather favorable wom on PC.Comparing W3 to Cyberpunk is incredibly wrong. Cyberpunk has had abysmal legs and word of mouth. Outside the launch timeframe, would not be surprised if the collapse was 85%+.
You are basically saying cyberpunk can sell 10 million on PC in the next year, since console versions are dead, which would be higher than even launch, and 3.3x times what it did last year.The next gen patch just came out but just like The Witcher, the lion’s share of sales comes from PC and I’m expecting deeper discounts in the coming months. It has what it needs to achieve those sales since the game’s reputation was only really poor on consoles. The PC experience was fine.
Now do platform splits ^^The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt yearly sell-in
2015: 9.47m
2016: 4.19m / 13.66m
2017 : 4.40m / 18.06m
2018 : 3.59m / 21.65m
2019 : 6.62m / 28.27m
2020: 7.36m / 35.63m
2021: 8.24m / 43.87m
I’m saying it can achieve 25-30 million sales through catalog sales of the PC version and the soft relaunch on consoles with the nextgen versionsYou are basically saying cyberpunk can sell 10 million on PC in the next year, since console versions are dead, which would be higher than even launch, and 3.3x times what it did last year.
Next gen is already out and included in these numbers.I’m saying it can achieve 25-30 million sales through catalog sales of the PC version and the soft relaunch on consoles with the nextgen versions
Right, for 2 months of them so that tells nothing as of nowNext gen is already out and included in these numbers.
That's not happening though. The reputation alone will prevent that. It will struggle to reach 30M in 2 years. And it's legs will probably get worse over time.I’m saying it can achieve 25-30 million sales through catalog sales of the PC version and the soft relaunch on consoles with the nextgen versions
Aren't these just the 2021 sale through numbers so no 2022 numbers? Unless I'm misreading or missing what CDPR is defining as 2021Next gen is already out and included in these numbers.
Lifetime sales of CP77 are guaranteed to exceed 30 millions, like it’s not even in contest. People can stay on the initial reception to the game as long as they want, the game’s still selling and consistently tops the gog sales charts so we shall seeThat's not happening though. The reputation alone will prevent that. It will struggle to reach 30M in 2 years. And it's legs will probably get worse over time.
For CDPR's likely lofty expectations from Witcher 3's legs and what they probably expected thanks to their (honestly just bad marketing campaign but I don't really want to go on about that on a sales thread)5m in 16 months is still pretty solid all things considered.
Aren't these just the 2021 sale through numbers so no 2022 numbers? Unless I'm misreading or missing what CDPR is defining as 2021
Regardless it might be my limited perspective but hasn't word of mouth become more positive over the last few weeks/months since the release of 1.5? That along with upcoming expansion (likely expansions) I can see the game getting to 25 million at least in the next two years. That plus the trigger anime they have planned should push the game over the edge. Incredibly poor legs regardless but I think ruling out 25 million + as of now is a bit reactionary
At the very least we should wait until next years update + see the reception to the expansion and anime is going to be before making conclusive statements that Cyberpunk will not reach 25 million or more sales
I mean if FF7R's legs are as bad as KH3's, I'm not sure what you are expecting for a comparison of my comments on Cyberpunk and on that hypothetical.I’ll keep in mind the « poor legs/sales » comments here for when we get a sales update on say, FF7R and compare the legs with the other highly anticipated 2020 title
You want to compare a game that was released on 1 platform at launch and then 2 platforms 1 year later (one of which was only on Epic games store) with a special edition to a game that released on 5 platforms at launch and is probably the most hyped game ever with tons of more marketing than the other game?I’ll keep in mind the « poor legs/sales » comments here for when we get a sales update on say, FF7R and compare the legs with the other highly anticipated 2020 title
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt yearly sell-in
2015: 9.47m
2016: 4.19m / 13.66m
2017: 4.40m / 18.06m
2018: 3.59m / 21.65m
2019: 6.62m / 28.27m
2020: 7.36m / 35.63m
2021: 8.24m / 43.87m
For some reason I don't understand they adjusted their 2015 numbers quite a bit since the last time they provided this graph so some double check might be needed for slightly better accuracy...Now do platform splits ^^
The witcher 3 has sold very well on switch and will be around 2.5 million at the end of 2022 on switch. Now if it can do this well, imagine how well final fantasy 9 remake could do.If i didn't make a mistake
Xbox = 5.8275M
Playstation = 14.451M
PC = 21.6206M
Switch = 1.8026M
Total = 43.7017M
Note: Some ratios could not be completed to hundred when added, probably due to rounding
The Witcher 3 has sold very well on switch and will be around 2.5 million at the end of 2022 on switch. Now if it can do this well, imagine how well final fantasy 9 remake could do.
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt yearly sell-in
2015: 9.47m
2016: 4.19m / 13.66m
2017: 4.40m / 18.06m
2018: 3.59m / 21.65m
2019: 6.62m / 28.27m
2020: 7.36m / 35.63m
2021: 8.24m / 43.87m
EDIT: 2015 might be slightly overestimated because CD Projekt adjusted their numbers, need double check for better accuracy
They are awful and unlike The Witcher 3 also don’t have meaningful, acclaimed DLC content adding to their value and prestige.those cyberpunk sales seem pretty awful for how much marketing/hype was made around it.
the cancellation of the multiplayer mode also pretty much ensures it won't see the same phenomenon as GTA Online heavily helping with sales overtime.
will it eventually reach 30 ? maybe but not when it'll still matter for cdprojekt as a company.
Netflix has a TV show for CP77 (but it’s animated)They are awful and unlike The Witcher 3 also don’t have meaningful, acclaimed DLC content adding to their value and prestige. Nor a TV show. People trying to give it a Witcher esque sales tail are hitting the crack pipe.
Really good attach rates on last gen consoles. On Xbox that ~>10% and Playstation ~>12%.of their install base purchased the Witcher 3.If i didn't make a mistake
Xbox = 5.8275M
Playstation = 14.451M
PC = 21.6206M
Switch = 1.8026M
Total = 43.7017M
Note: Some ratios could not be completed to hundred when added, probably due to rounding
They show similar first to second year declines and outside of the console space the game has has rather favorable wom on PC.
I mean this is a CDProject Red game. Anyone expecting a technical masterpiece clearly hasn’t experienced The Witcher 1-2-3 on release on Pc
Edit : it’s also consistently at the top of sales charts on gog
I’ll keep in mind the « poor legs/sales » comments here for when we get a sales update on say, FF7R and compare the legs with the other highly anticipated 2020 title