Fair point, many people are rooting for the SD because of the investments Valve is gonna make towards SteamOS/Linux in general. SO even if you dont plan on buying a Deck soon or ever many are gonna benefit from that development. Streamlining low-powered, portable, MS independent PC gaming.There might be a draw to play on a gaming PC without having to deal with Microsoft in any way shape or form. That is one reason I'm rooting for it's success.
Fair point, many people are rooting for the SD because of the investments Valve is gonna make towards SteamOS/Linux in general. SO even if you dont plan on buying a Deck soon or ever many are gonna benefit from that development. Streamlining low-powered, portable, MS independent PC gaming.
The goal is to have SteamOS3 run on as many PC plattforms as possible - the SteamDeck is just the Pixel Phone version of Android, will be interesting to see what things look like a couple years from now when actual competitors enter the market, that sell systems for sub 500bucks as well.
Steam Deck won't be able to do that but at least it will finally replace Big Picture Mode for Steam on Windows..Yeah, I hope this makes Linux "mass-market" compatible.
Get enough people hooked on Linux and make Linux-based gaming more accessible.
And maybe we could get a SteamOS or other linux based operating Systems out on normal PC's and laptops and not just handhelds.
There is still the issue about other programs that need Windows, but at least for me, who has a PC specifically for Gaming and another for everything else, it would not be a problem.
Steam is Valve's main business, likely worth well into the billions. Without any Linux efforts that whole business would be fully reliant on Microsoft's antics, like on a short notice introducing (and over time forcing people onto) Windows 11 after for years saying that Windows 10 is the last Windows ever. There already is a Windows version that only allows for software installation through Microsoft Store, nowadays Windows 10/11 S, its initial introduction is what started all of Valve's Linux efforts. All of Valve's Linux efforts culminating in SteamOS are Valve's hedge against Microsoft turning Windows into something that endangers the Steam ecosystem.I still don't really see how the SteamOS helps Valve too much. if AB games gets on steam through MS, then Valve still profits
I saw no number so far. This previous post quoting "many millions" until the end of 2023 is the first time I've seen any kind of quantity. Maybe somebody saw more concrete numbers elsewhere?Do we have any idea of how many units Valve plans on producing?
Well, thank you! It's something.I saw no number so far. This previous post quoting "many millions" until the end of 2023 is the first time I've seen any kind of quantity. Maybe somebody saw more concrete numbers elsewhere?
It means that they are not left at the mercy of Microsoft and their whims with Windows; they can chart their own course.I still don't really see how the SteamOS helps Valve too much. if AB games gets on steam through MS, then Valve still profits
Only 38 games? I was under the impression that most games on Steam would work out of the gate. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.
List of games with SteamDeck verified support status.
Let's see how this develops seems like there is still a lot of work ahead.
Pretty much all games that don't have some anti-cheat stuff will work immediately. There's just no guarantee that controls work in a satisfying manner, or screen resolution is supported, or, or, or. All the small things that make or break enjoying a game in the year 2022. The games listed in the link are games that Valve has officially approved as being perfectly compatible with Steam Deck.Only 38 games? I was under the impression that most games on Steam would work out of the gate. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.
There's still a few weeks before launch and I expect that list to grow quickly, but there will be some obvious growing pains with this device. More so than I was expecting.
Ah, so the classic "yeah it works on PC, only with a bunch of caveats that can diminish the overall experience."There's just no guarantee that controls work in a satisfying manner, or screen resolution is supported, or, or, or. All the small things that make or break enjoying a game in the year 2022.
Those are just some of the games that Valve was able to test/verify and or the devs. The device will run much more games but YMMV may vary and some workarounds might be needed.Only 38 games? I was under the impression that most games on Steam would work out of the gate. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.
There's still a few weeks before launch and I expect that list to grow quickly, but there will be some obvious growing pains with this device. More so than I was expecting.
Yep, this is another reason why people who think the Steam Deck is a "Switch killer" have been delusional. Even if Steam Deck became widely available in retail stores/worldwide a lot of casual gamers are going to be frustrated having to do the pc settings thing for their handheld pc.Pretty much all games that don't have some anti-cheat stuff will work immediately. There's just no guarantee that controls work in a satisfying manner, or screen resolution is supported, or, or, or. All the small things that make or break enjoying a game in the year 2022. The games listed in the link are games that Valve has officially approved as being perfectly compatible with Steam Deck.
that list is just for Proton. install windows and everything should "work"Only 38 games? I was under the impression that most games on Steam would work out of the gate. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.
There's still a few weeks before launch and I expect that list to grow quickly, but there will be some obvious growing pains with this device. More so than I was expecting.
No user accessible P4G. You need to use Proton GE for P4G because they use some codecs that are patented and Valve can't use it for their Proton fork without infringing some rights.No P4G? Lmao, yeah, no, fuck that
Yeah. And even if SD was mass market, I’m sure P4G wouldn’t be what makes or breaks its fate for mainstream customers. It does however single handedly define my interest in this product so if they won’t get P4G to work seamlessly on the system, I have very little interest in it.No user accessible P4G. You need to use Proton GE for P4G because they use some codecs that are patented and Valve can't use it for their Proton fork without infringing some rights.
But yeah, this kinda of thing is why the SteamDeck will never be a user-acessible and mass-market seller device.
No. The proton list is much bigger than that.that list is just for Proton. install windows and everything should "work"
And so am I! Thank you, good sir.Ah, so the classic "yeah it works on PC, only with a bunch of caveats that can diminish the overall experience."
The response from early adopters will be interesting. I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order.
yea, then this means less that it appears. I don't see devs spending time fixing stuff like small text or whatever save for some indiesNo. The proton list is much bigger than that.
This list is apparently games which were tested by Valves which mets their criteria for the Deck specifically.
There are a lot more games which will work out of the box which Valve hasn't validated yet. And there will likely be games which run perfectly on Linux, either native or through Proton, which will not meet Valve criteria for the Deck (like text being too small, for example).
Delay dampened hype, yeah. But wait for end of Februar and hype will reach new heights. Saw some dev show off his Steam Deck yesterday and I'm instantly hyped again. Actually, here's the video:It does feel like hype went down. Way down. Especially with the delay.
I expect it to run decently, if a bit blurry due to resolution. the CPU will be more than enough to keep the gpu fedI absolutely cannot wait to see how Elden Ring runs on this thing.
Probably even at 60FPS with PS4 settingsI expect it to run decently, if a bit blurry due to resolution. the CPU will be more than enough to keep the gpu fed
Shouldn't be blurry at all as long as it runs in native res, which should be no problem.I expect it to run decently, if a bit blurry due to resolution. the CPU will be more than enough to keep the gpu fed
That would be incredible and definitely turn some heads.Probably even at 60FPS with PS4 settings
I remember they said something about having setting to prioritize performance or battery-life.Have Valve said if there will be a collection of profiles stored for each game containing various graphics settings depending on what you want to prioritize? Something similar to user created controller profiles in Big Picture Mode.
That would be incredible and definitely turn some heads.
FYI, this is only the first patch of specifically Valve tested games for the Deck which means that more games are being added as STEAM Deck Compatible.. there is still a ton of time between now and its launch next month so the Deck compatibility verified games no. will grow much further than just '38' and even then there are games on ProtonDB that can run on the deck too and 'out of the gate'. Games like Gow and HZD already run out of the gate on it for example..Only 38 games? I was under the impression that most games on Steam would work out of the gate. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.
There's still a few weeks before launch and I expect that list to grow quickly, but there will be some obvious growing pains with this device. More so than I was expecting.
Exciting times indeed, such a great feature with a lot of potential down the line. I hope as many devs as possible opt-in to use, i think like always indies will be the ones to be on board first but its gonna be interesting to see it being used in bigger projects as well.As the launch approaches, new cool features are being announced:
Steam :: Steamworks Development :: Steamworks Feature Update: Dynamic Cloud Sync
An improvement to Steam Cloud Saves to make it easier for players to move seamlessly from Steam Deck to other PCs.steamcommunity.com
The difference between the Atari Lynx and the Steam Deck is… the Lynx actually got released in Japan.Revenge of the Atari Lynx
(I kid, I kid)
Remember people here talking about 4000 games on the fly, so... it´s worst than Proton's default definition?Ah, so the classic "yeah it works on PC, only with a bunch of caveats that can diminish the overall experience."
The response from early adopters will be interesting. I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order.