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That's what I meant by "about as well". I'm used to seeing 5:1 or worse, not these ratios within 2:1 or even close to 1:1. Shit's totally dire most of the time.
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That's what I meant by "about as well". I'm used to seeing 5:1 or worse, not these ratios within 2:1 or even close to 1:1. Shit's totally dire most of the time.
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Untrue, Switch had a 2:1 lead over PS for Nocturne
Western logos yes, those pop up in basic google searches even. The Japanese logos are apparently harder to come by in higher res.
Sure but again, the software landscape was also a lot more favorable to PlayStation for Japanese games in 2020/2021. I'd imagine the Persona remasters probably gave Atlus a better indication where things stand more recently.
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Topically we got a snapshot of one retailer's US sales via Amazon (March 2023).
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne HD Remaster
100+ Switch
100+ PS4
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei IV
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei V
800+ Switch
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES
100+ PS2
Persona 5 Royal
600+ Switch
200+ PS5
200+ PS5 (Steelbook)
100+ PS4 (3rd party, UK version)
50+ PS4
50+ Switch (Steelbook)
50+ Switch (3rd party)
Persona 5 Strikers
100+ Switch
50+ PS4
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Soul Hackers
50+ 3DS
Soul Hackers 2
100+ PS5
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor - Overclocked
50+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 - Record Breaker
100+ 3DS
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
200+ 3DS
Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth
200+ 3DS
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
100+ Switch
50+ PS4
Catherine: Full Body
100+ Switch
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
50+ 3DS
Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
100+ 3DS
In general it does seem like Nintendo is Atlus' lead market here though I suspect a lot of those 3DS sales are being driven by the attention the eShop shutdown is giving the platform in general. Most of those also have DLC people might've wanted to grab too. Sadly though Amazon's pulled the data and now I'm realizing I forgot to look up TMS when I had the chance.
( ._.)
And in other leak news I discovered an OLD 4chan leak (March 2021) that now appears to have been 100% on the money. Some dates and details shifted but it was largely right and might paint a worrying picture for Project Re: Fantasy.
Reposting the content (not linking to 4chan/archives):
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne HD Remaster
100+ Switch
100+ PS4
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei IV
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
100+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei V
800+ Switch
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES
100+ PS2
Persona 5 Royal
600+ Switch
200+ PS5
200+ PS5 (Steelbook)
100+ PS4 (3rd party, UK version)
50+ PS4
50+ Switch (Steelbook)
50+ Switch (3rd party)
Persona 5 Strikers
100+ Switch
50+ PS4
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Soul Hackers
50+ 3DS
Soul Hackers 2
100+ PS5
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor - Overclocked
50+ 3DS
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 - Record Breaker
100+ 3DS
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
200+ 3DS
Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth
200+ 3DS
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
100+ Switch
50+ PS4
Catherine: Full Body
100+ Switch
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
50+ 3DS
Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
100+ 3DS
In general it does seem like Nintendo is Atlus' lead market here though I suspect a lot of those 3DS sales are being driven by the attention the eShop shutdown is giving the platform in general. Most of those also have DLC people might've wanted to grab too. Sadly though Amazon's pulled the data and now I'm realizing I forgot to look up TMS when I had the chance.
( ._.)
And in other leak news I discovered an OLD 4chan leak (March 2021) that now appears to have been 100% on the money. Some dates and details shifted but it was largely right and might paint a worrying picture for Project Re: Fantasy.
Reposting the content (not linking to 4chan/archives):
Nice get, the info really shows how Atlus game feel at home on Nintendo consoles (I wish we got info on TMS though
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I don't know if I really believe the 4chan post, as it is both wildly far off on the release date for "Next Etrian Project" and doesn't even specify that it is just some ports of 1/2/3.
EDIT: Sorry, misread the sales thing.
EDIT: Sorry, misread the sales thing.
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A six months delay for a leak made almost two years ahead of time is not “wildly off” lol; plus all it says is “next etrian project”, which this collection absolutely qualifies as
So a little background but those sales aren't in the 1000s, they're total and only for the month of March 2023. Anything not listed sold under 50 copies during the month.
For some comparison the top selling game anyone checked was Zelda TOTK at 30,000+ sold (preordered), again just for March 2023.
There's some more numbers in this thread:
Amazon.com Sales Tracker (US and International Markets)
Update April 28: Working in more markets! Right now I've seen Canada, Brazil, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Australia, Mexico. This looks to be US only at the moment. As this is a new feature it most likely is either in rollout status and won't reach everyone immediately or is some A/B testing...
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Ah, I thought it said Q2, not H2. Still, this seems so vague and missing the intermediate releases (Persona 3/4 ports), and misses PC for Etrian Odyssey. It had SMTV's release quarter (a whole 9 or 10 weeks before a specific date was officially announced in a Direct) and Persona 5 Royal ports, at least, but neither of those are/were surprising. The "EO Next" teaser had been out for years by the time of the leak and it feels like a bait and switch to play off of that . "Oh, it is totally these ports, and not the actual Next that they teased in 2018".
It said "new information tomorrow". What was the SMTV information released in March 2021?
Ah, also misread that. Thanks for the correction!So a little background but those sales aren't in the 1000s, they're total and only for the month of March 2023. Anything not listed sold under 50 copies during the month.
For some comparison the top selling game anyone checked was Zelda TOTK at 30,000+ sold (preordered), again just for March 2023.
There's some more numbers in this thread:
Amazon.com Sales Tracker (US and International Markets)
Update April 28: Working in more markets! Right now I've seen Canada, Brazil, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Australia, Mexico. This looks to be US only at the moment. As this is a new feature it most likely is either in rollout status and won't reach everyone immediately or is some A/B testing...
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Oh wow this is from that mew Amazon tracker?
Wanna know how there were so many of those 3DS SMT games left to sell? Some of those game cost a small fortune in Europe.
Apparently this won't have thr content of 3P, so it might not be a complete version
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OMG JET SET RADIO!
maybe it is just a concept material than a real project
off: is there really a chance that a really new Jet Set Radio comes out?
maybe it is just a concept material than a real project
off: is there really a chance that a really new Jet Set Radio comes out?
Keep in mind it's from 2021 so that was likely super early concept stuff thrown together right after the JSR service game was greenlit. P3R might look very different too tbh.
I wish we had the full reel, might have Crazy Taxi in there too!
It's apparantly from a survey from Swagbucks
That JSR image looks great to me, honestly.
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Apparently the Yukari model is from Persona 3 Dancing In Moonlight but since this is 2021 footage and the game has yet to be released maybe this was a very early footage just meant to serve as a presentation to show what they have been workin on
It's apparantly from a survey from Swagbucks
the JSR stuff looks like art tests
interesting that they have Combo there instead of Tab/Corn
The History of Megami Tensei
Saving the best till last, time moves fast but ATLUS moves slow as we're still waiting for more details on the however many projects they have in the works (even they don't know!). Will there be any more fodder for pages of - ultimately meaningless internet drama, resulting from baffling platform choices and/or staggered announcement at different platform holder online events. Or maybe Sega Sammy Holdings has mandated day & date support for all major platforms...plus Nintendo Switch. Thanks to @fiendcode for building the list & @Ishaan for compiling daily tweets:
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Creative Department 1st Production
Creative Department 2nd Production
Creative Department 3rd Production
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FY2024 (April 2023 - March 2024)
Release Date TBC:
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Metaphor: ReFantazio
Etrian Odyssey 16th Anniversary - twitter / livestream (28th May)
No idea when ATLUS will finally show us PROJECT Re FANTASY (next week in
Speaking of anniversaries, ATLUS must have something in mind for Shin Megami Tensei...then again after its PERSONA 25th Anniversary maybe it's better not to ask. A comprehensive collection (ATLUS AGES by M2!) with QoL improvements much like Phantasy Star on Switch might be too much to hope for...or is it? Maybe there's more to meet the eye with these from Megami Tensei creator Aya Nishitani reminiscing about SMT...much like akio discussing Metal Slug before announcing Black Finger JET, are they getting the old demonic band together?
[iOS/Android] SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI Liberation Dx2
Schedule
5/18/2023 (Thu) 8:00 PDT～5/24/2023 (Wed) 7:59 PDT
Next featured demon
5★ Dragon Quetzalcoatl [Dimensional] (GRADE 80)| Panel | Completion Bonus | Step Bonus |
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| 1 | -50% to Fire/Force damage received. | HP: +250 (MAX) |
| 2 | Activates the following Chain Effect when Ce Acatl is activated. Increases own Party's ATK, DEF and EV/AC by 20%. (1 turn) | Mag ATK: +100 (MAX) |
| 3 | +25% to Fire damage. | HP: +250 (MAX) |
Future Plans
Here are the demons that will be featured in upcoming Advent quests.| Date | Demon |
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| 5/25/2023 (Thu) 8:00 PDT | 5★ Megami Lakshmi [Dimensional] |
| 6/1/2023 (Thu) 8:00 PDT | 5★ Vile Mada |
| 6/8/2023 (Thu) 8:00 PDT | 5★ Herald Gabriel |
| 6/15/2023 (Thu) 8:00 PDT | 5★ Herald Raphael |
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So it turns out Mutan actually led dev on EO Origins Collection!
This means the collection actually wasn't one of the "3 major projects" in dev simultaneously at 1st Production alongside SMTV and SH2. So what was?
Mutan also did support work on PQ2 so it makes sense they'd graduate to taking a more active role for the EO remasters. I wonder how long until we get PQ1-2 HD then...
This means the collection actually wasn't one of the "3 major projects" in dev simultaneously at 1st Production alongside SMTV and SH2. So what was?
Mutan also did support work on PQ2 so it makes sense they'd graduate to taking a more active role for the EO remasters. I wonder how long until we get PQ1-2 HD then...
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PC was pretty much confirmed in the trailers through the Windows Store logo.
I imagine a Steam release will be revealed on Tuesday, like what happened with the P5R port last year.
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Yeah I should have specified steam. Good catch on the windows store
It is exactly like last year with P3P, P4G and P5R. I think it should be pretty obvious that both games are coming to all platforms. We'll just have to wait a bit longer.
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After SH2 I don't take anything as a given lol
Looking at the games I'd be shocked if they weren't both also on Switch too but then, yeah, this.
We'll find out next week or possibly (hopefully not) later.
P5T has SD characters, I can't see it skipping switch, as stupid as it sounds lol.
P3R, from a technical point of view, shouldn't have any issue to run on Nintendo console too. I think they'll both release everywhere, and if they don't, well, it would be dumb.
P3R, from a technical point of view, shouldn't have any issue to run on Nintendo console too. I think they'll both release everywhere, and if they don't, well, it would be dumb.
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It looks less demanding than persona 5 indeed
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In the article, Sal did state its multiplat and he doesn't seem like the kind of person who would try and guess which platforms through an article. I think his source did tell him its Switch, PS4, PS5, and Steam on top of the Xbox One and Series versions.
Could have been a plan at some point then they delayed it after seeing how busy this year is already gonna be.
But the weirdness doesn't stop there since this is one of their more recent tweets about the new games
Across all the recent tweets, the impression I get is that the chances are high that this Twitter account is merely repackaging informations shared elsewhere.
Is that even possible!?* P5 was a ps3 game and probably didn't have any physically based materials. P3 might be building off of SMT5's technology stack which would inherently put it above P5
*Rhetorical question
Yes.
It's possible but, I'd feel it would be a smaller developer like Artdink or something.
Persona 3 Reload and Persona 5 Tactica announcement trailers leaked by ATLUS West
ATLUS West has published the full announcement trailers for Persona 3 Reload and Persona 5 Tactica, a remake of Persona 3 and a Persona 5-themed strategy RPG that, as Gematsu understands, are sched…
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Just posting the link to the Gematsu article. As @Dakota Joestar mentioned it, the article only states that the game is multiplat without going into details.
It is still very much up in the air wherever the games will come or not on Switch.
That possible too, though KS does work on 3rd party IP sometimes (Pokémon Conquest, Yo-Kai Sangokushi, Fire Emblem TH).
ArtDink also has SRPG credentials though (Lunatic Dawn series, Ogre ports, Triangle Strategy, etc) and Atlus contracted them before for some Soul Hackers 2 ports (PC, XBO).
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Looks like it’ll be the same as last year
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Looked amazing! Wonder if that means Persona 6 would be day 1 xbox as well
One of the worst titles I've ever heard. It looked choppy but otherwise it looked great (and very ambitious)
Exciting reveal, terrible trailer though.
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I am gonna assume Persona 6 is not a 2024 title with Persona 3 Reload and Metaphor being next year along with the rumored Persona party game.
At this point, I think the only way Persona 6 is not on Xbox is if Sony manages to secure a time exclusivity for the game.